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leonh
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| Problem with Kronos is that when you buy it then usually you don't have pleasure to look for better keyboard as upgrade as there is none on the market 😁 |
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leonh
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| And that makes me happy |
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psionic311
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Location: Orlando, Florida USA
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| studio460 wrote: | Well, I don't need any electric guitars, but I can't get that Motif out of my brain. Ever since I bought my Fantom G back in 2008, it was between that and a Motif. I played both at Guitar Center for hours.
Now, 10 years later, I still can't stop thinking about it. But I just spent $3,000 on a Kronos; I can't possibly spend another $2K on a synth right now (been looking at used XFs). Has anyone tried those Motif sample libraries on eBay? Do they work? Should I just hold my nut and buy a Motif AU library for my Apple Logic DAW? Is there an easy way to get Motif sounds onto my Kronos SSD? |
Just a couple years ago I went through a similar process. I was looking for something to compliment the Kronos for live cover work, and the occasional orchestral noodling at home. I wanted orchestral articulations that the Kronos largely lacks, so I was focusing on Yamaha expanded articulation (XA) or Roland Supernatural tech.
In the end I went with the Integra 7, mainly because I didn't like the action on either the Motif XF or the FA-06. The Yamaha arps and Roland sequencers were tempting, but in the end I decided I just wanted a hardware sound module with acoustic articulations and some synth sound-shaping and FX possibilities.
You might consider getting a Yamaha Motif XS rack to quench your Motif GAS. Here's a WIKI page detailing the Motif line and what each brings. An XF rack would've been perfect for me, but too bad there is none.
Korg Kronos + Roland Integra 7 + Yamaha Motif XS rack. That would give you the max library content from the Big 3 with the smallest footprint. Sounds like you already have your sequencing needs met.
And for the synth tech looks like you're going with Virus tech. I have a Micron + BCF/BCR when I want hands-on multi-timbral sound shaping with a variety of juicy filters. My OB6 isn't getting much attention, so I will be trading that out for a bi-timbral Prophet Rev2 soon enough. But sounds like your needs are more compositional than cover band territory, so DSI might not be what you need. |
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psionic311
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Location: Orlando, Florida USA
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| Oh, and if you want affordable Moog, I'd recommend either the Minitaur or the Slim Phatty for minimal footprint. |
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studio460
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Location: Los Angeles CA USA
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Kronos Platinum + Fantom G + Fender Strat/Soldano SLO
I think I just figured out the best synth to pair with my new Kronos—it's my Fantom G8! I just plopped my new Kronos Platinum right above my Fantom, plugged in the TRS, MIDI, and power cables left over from my V-Synth GT (which is sitting the floor now), and I was in business! I played a simple three-chord progression of super-saws on the Fantom against a neat rhythm combi on the Kronos, then laid down a quick guitar track. All recorded in my Fantom G's built-in recorder. My first composition with the Kronos:
• Kronos rhythm combi (yeah, I just bought a $3,000 drum machine!).
• Fantom G8 Super-Saw performance patch.
• Fender Strat through a Soldano SLO, large-diaphragm AT condenser mic, and a BlueTube mic preamp (direct-in to the Fantom's guitar input).
All my other synths' TRS outputs are input to the Fantom G's built-in 24-track audio recorder via Behringer 10x2 TRS switcher:
I'm so friggin' happy that Korg was blowing out their Platinum 88s—they're beautiful! It so complements the very similar, clear-anodized aluminum finish on my Fantom G—they make a great pair, sonically and aesthetically!
If anyone's interested, Sweetwater has more Platinum 88s in stock (my S.E. said, "more than 5, less than 10"). They're factory-refurbished from Korg (though they may in fact be brand-new units! Mine looks spankin' new!).
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studio460
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| psionic311 wrote: | | Just a couple years ago I went through a similar process . . . Korg Kronos + Roland Integra 7 + Yamaha Motif XS rack. |
Well, I think I'm finally getting over my Yamaha syndrome. I listened to some V-Synth GT demos, and realized that the machine can do some pretty amazing stuff with its elastic-synthesis engine (which no other synth can easily replicate). Plus, I forgot one of the main reasons I bought it—the vocoder! Hear its vocoder here and here. Now, I'm listening to some Omnisphere demos. So . . .
Kronos + Fantom G + Omnisphere
Probably gets me to 99% of the sonic universe. Oh, yeah, and I have my Virus for weird sounds, plus its perfect Oberheim patch. It's so easy to become seduced by $$$$-workstations, and as a non-sound programmer, I'm a sucker for big ROMplers. But of course this madness has to stop. Yes, the Motif XF is sexy as hell. But I DON'T NEED IT. At least I did determine that I don't want a Montage. (Dang! I just know my life would finally be complete with a Motif XF!)
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Lightbringer
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Location: USA
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| Congrats on that! Looks like an awesome studio you have there. |
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IAA
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I’ve had most stuff over the years, but have settled on:
Bottom tier - Kronos X 88 - can do practically everything
Middle tier - Sequential Prophet 6 - the best analogue poly I’ve used
Upper tier - Moog minimoog model D re-issue - The Sound.
I record into Logic which has in 10.4 a very nice mellotron too!
And my softsynths are via Roland Cloud. (Which I’m really digging)
I am now limited only by my imagination and ability!
Worst pairing? I had a Yamaha CP 5 stage piano with a Kronos 61, preferred the Kronos pianos, so got the Kronos X 88 and ditched the Kronos 61 and CP 5!
Ian
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