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musicbysterling Full Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 1:51 am Post subject: SW1 & 2 to mute parts in a Combi? |
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I have a Combi in which I have four parts programmed. What I'd like to do is be able to play only two parts at a time to coincide with different parts of a song. Can SW1 and SW2 be programmed to allow me to mute and unmute parts in the Combi? Setting up zones MIDI zones or using the foot pedal aren't options for what I need to do.
Thx
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geoelectro Platinum Member
Joined: 14 Sep 2012 Posts: 1038 Location: Texas
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 2:29 am Post subject: |
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I believe you can but I seldom use those buttons. Someone else will chime in. You can use the Vector Joystick for this. For two sound control I program one sound(s) with the JS to the left and another sound(s) on the right.
I also use it for building a sound going from down to up. Pushing it up to add layers.
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tomto66 Senior Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 4:46 am Post subject: |
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It's easy. Insert an effect that has volume controls, say and compressor. Assign the volume AMS to SW1 or 2 and adjust the amount of volume difference to that AMS. Done! _________________ Kronos X-88, Nanopad2, Tascam US122 MKii, Roli Rise 49 |
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19naia Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2018 5:02 am Post subject: |
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From what i see, your best chance is via AMS per program but i am not so sure how that will work in combi mode where it can cause conflict if you do not have all the timbre programs sorted out for their SW assignments.
It can get complicated if any of the programs already use SW 1&2 as AMS over other parameters.
It may not work at all if you cannot find an AMS-ready program parameter that has the effect of making the program silent..
Also AMS is in FX pages. You can find an effect that has AMS options for SW 1&2 over parameters that make the sound silent. Not all FX oprions will work and it can get complicated in the case that the programs already use SW 1&2 as AMS over other Parameters.
I have assigned SW 1&2 for other kinds of purposes and ended up with all kinds of strange changes to my sound that were related to SW 1&2 Lready beng assigned to other purposes than my custom purposes.
You can sort them out but sometimes it can be brain racking to get it right when all you wanted was a quick setup and back to musical inspiration.
Such is the nature of combi where you have many programs layered and each with their own unique application of the same switch or knob that controls the entire combi.
Sorry i cannot specify an exact Parameter per program or FX. I have no clue what programs you are using or which FX will work for you. It is not easy even if i were trying to do it for myself.
Karma has a way of setting up timbre groups for switching to turn one set on or off and bring in another. I think up to four groups, one for each karma module, but then you have to use the Karma scene switches to change groups rather than SW 1&2. I think Karma route lets you have up to 16 sounds broken into 4 groups of 4 timbre per group. I think you may be able to get more timbre than 4 per group but not more than 4 groups. Not sure.
https://youtu.be/2OaglzcDoy0
Thats the link to a good step by step video on how to use karma to do what you are asking. Not using SW 1&2 but using Karma SW 1-8. |
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psionic311 Platinum Member
Joined: 14 Nov 2014 Posts: 1046 Location: Orlando, Florida USA
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:10 am Post subject: Re: SW1 & 2 to mute parts in a Combi? |
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musicbysterling wrote: | I have a Combi in which I have four parts programmed. What I'd like to do is be able to play only two parts at a time to coincide with different parts of a song. Can SW1 and SW2 be programmed to allow me to mute and unmute parts in the Combi? Setting up zones MIDI zones or using the foot pedal aren't options for what I need to do.
Thx
Mark |
One way to approach this is by using the Dyn Comp FX.
For example, assign the Dyn Comp to the sound or group of sounds you want to mute/unmute. Set the FX gain to something like 15. Then set the AMS source for the gain to SW1, and its amount to -15. Pressing SW1 will then decrease the FX output to 15 - 15 = 0, which will effectively mute the sound(s).
Reverse the amounts if you want the timbre to be muted at first, then turn on to a preset level after you press SW1. In other words, set FX gain to 0, and SW1 amount to 15 to turn on the timbre with a volume of 15.
HTH |
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psionic311 Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 7:27 am Post subject: |
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One side effect of this method is that you can virtually "increase" the number of pads to more than just the 8.
For example, in The Spirit of Radio I trigger the pads with my foot controller. On the early parts of the song, the pads are programmed to play Taurus bass sounds. This took up all 8 pads.
Later in the song, I needed the pads to play high notes and chords instead of bass notes. I used one press of SW1 to switch the sounds, muting the bass notes while unmuting the high sounds. |
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kbrkr Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2018 4:15 pm Post subject: |
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I'm not understanding why your not using Karma switching to turn off parts of the Combi with a single key press?
There are Youtube videos explaining how to do this. _________________ Pa5x, Yamaha Genos, ForeScore |
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psionic311 Platinum Member
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