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User styles and KB sets overwritten

 
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bobb
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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 4:42 pm    Post subject: User styles and KB sets overwritten Reply with quote

Can anyone shed any light on the following problem please?
A friend has a Pa4x bought in October 2015. I bought mine in November 2017. Since updating to 2.1 we have both used the Direct method of saving our Songbooks etc etc on USB’s. He sometimes uses his USB in mine and vice versa.
The problem that we have both suffered (he 4 times and me twice)is that our User styles have been completely overwritten by the Direct styles and at the same time, the User KB sets have been overwritten by the Direct KB sets thus we have exact duplicates of both. When this happens the situation can be recovered by retrieving User data from backups but why does it happen.??

As mentioned, we both use the Direct USB method but Is it possible that an occasional operator error of saving a new Set List or Songbook entry as Indirect rather than Direct could be the cause?

Advice appreciated
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even if you have 2 USBs with a SET of the same name you MUST un-link and re-link the DIRECT SET when you change USB devices

PA4X sees the USBs as different devices, hence 2 different DIRECT sets.

Hope this solves your problem

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 7:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that Pete, we’ll certainly be more careful in future.

But, In trying to understand the logic, is it possible for you to explain why this happens please? if I don’t de-select before I ‘browse’ another USB with the same name why does it load those ‘new’ Direct Styles and KB Sets in the User slots rather than overwriting the Direct slots?

Thanks for your help
Bob
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know exactly why but I do know that the PA4X treats each USB device as a unique device.
The device becomes part of the Direct-select link path to the SET. Maybe the OS gets confused by the "same" set name on both devices when you do not deselect - not 100% sure.

Anyhow, I believe de-selecting first is critical.

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK Pete, thanks very much - your advice much appreciated
Bob
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