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Pedja Platinum Member
Joined: 20 Sep 2013 Posts: 576
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 7:02 am Post subject: How to use iPad Pro with Kronos X? |
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I really don't have any experience with Apple Mac or iPad's, and I need help about that:
1. What I need to connect iPad Pro with Kronos X?
2. What I need to use Kronos editor on iPad Pro? How I can do this from external USB disk (install editor on iPad)
3. How I can install DAW, from disk (in offline mode, without internet connection)?
4. How I can copy recorded wav file from Kronos to iPad and after that copy this file to Win Notebook?
5. How I can manipulate with files, copy them from iPad to Winx64 notebook and vica versa? And I need from hardware to do this.
6. How I can copy files to external USB disk to iPad?
7. What iOS programs are best to use with Kronos. What did you commonly use?
All my question are related to iOS v.11. I still don't have iPad Pro but I want to buy it and use it with Kronos X, and I need to know what I have to buy it to produce possibility to solve all what is in my question?
Thanks for all your attention!!! _________________ Pedja
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Kronos X73, Kurzweil PC3LE8, ASM Hydrasynth, Arturia Keylab mk2 61, AKAI MPC Key 61
My music: https://soundcloud.com/pedjak-1
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http://moca.virtual.museum/autogallery2015/autogallery_kalajdzijevic/
http://moca.virtual.museum/autogallery2017/autogallery_kalajdzijevic/
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19naia Platinum Member
Joined: 29 Nov 2012 Posts: 1216
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 9:46 am Post subject: |
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iPad will connect via USB but you need a camera kit USB to lightning adapter.
And buy the one made by apple or made for apple. Problems are common with non apple accessories.
As far as your questions about other ways to use iPad, mostly you need a laptop. I can record audio into iPad but sending files like we can with laptops, is what sets iPad apart as a less utility friendly device.
iPad lets me download files over internet but i have to use a laptop or desktop to transfer them via USB flash drive. There is no USB flash drive connection to iPad and the special USB adaptors are for camera files only. But it also does Midi and audio lines over USB with applicable apps.
I may be wrong if there is a way to hack around it or a special app that allows use of USB adaptor for regular every day files, but apple seems to restrict data transfer and it may be about keeping the system less corruptible.
Apple’s high priced reputation is based on a less vulnerable system and that does not come easy when people can have files and data coming and going any way they want. iPad in particular is a very closed system when it comes to interface and data transfer.
iPad pro seems it should have more laptop utility but it stays close to what iPad has always been, just added functions in software realm, better sound but nothing changed with the same old utility limitations.
Maybe you are better to do with a laptop and then get iPad as an extra convenience rather than a laptop substitute.
I have iPad Pro and i have to use a laptop for getting files to and from Kronos and then use file apps over internet, to access them on iPad. |
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Pedja Platinum Member
Joined: 20 Sep 2013 Posts: 576
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 10:19 am Post subject: |
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Thank you very much 19naia for your detail, and very good explanation. As I remember it is not a first time that you help me. I really appreciate that and I am very grateful.
I have Wn8.1 x64 Notebook with I7 processor, 8 Gb RAM, NVidia GT750 DDR5 2 Gb, 1 Tb HD and 15.6 IPS Touch Screen monitor, and I was wrong (reading some messages) that iPad will make living easier with Kronos than my notebook, and that will give me some new possibilities. But, after your suggestions, I conclude that I was wrong, am I wright? I wish you all best in all aspects of your life, specially music. _________________ Pedja
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Kronos X73, Kurzweil PC3LE8, ASM Hydrasynth, Arturia Keylab mk2 61, AKAI MPC Key 61
My music: https://soundcloud.com/pedjak-1
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My CG Galleries:
http://www.museumofcomputerart.com/autogallery2013/autogallery_kalajdzijevic/
http://moca.virtual.museum/autogallery2015/autogallery_kalajdzijevic/
http://moca.virtual.museum/autogallery2017/autogallery_kalajdzijevic/
http://moca.virtual.museum/dablog/dablog02.htm
http://moca.virtual.museum/autogallery2019/autogallery_kalajdzijevic/
https://www.saatchiart.com/PedjaK |
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runningman67 Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Aug 2011 Posts: 1663 Location: Manchester UK
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 11:18 am Post subject: |
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I have my iPad plugged into my Kronos using the Apple Camera Connection kit (basically an expensive lightening plug and female usb). If you go into global menu it's easy to set up.
You can layer the ipad with the Kronos sounds and also sequence it.
I love the iSymphonic app and iOddyssey app. You can use the fx from your Kronos on the iPad apps too.
Now and again if you want something a bit different, the i OS synths are very good indeed. Turns yoir Kronos into an even bigger beast.
Alchemy(garageband), Nave, DRC are other great apps. _________________ https://m.youtube.com/user/1967runningman |
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Pedja Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you very much runningman67 for your help. First, I have to say that I like your music very much! Did you all make it on Kronos? Great sensibility, great music, excellent recording (I listened all of them)!
When you said global menu, did you mean Kronos global menu?
I couldn't find iOddyssey?
I wish you all best, specially in music. _________________ Pedja
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Kronos X73, Kurzweil PC3LE8, ASM Hydrasynth, Arturia Keylab mk2 61, AKAI MPC Key 61
My music: https://soundcloud.com/pedjak-1
_______________________________________
My CG Galleries:
http://www.museumofcomputerart.com/autogallery2013/autogallery_kalajdzijevic/
http://moca.virtual.museum/autogallery2015/autogallery_kalajdzijevic/
http://moca.virtual.museum/autogallery2017/autogallery_kalajdzijevic/
http://moca.virtual.museum/dablog/dablog02.htm
http://moca.virtual.museum/autogallery2019/autogallery_kalajdzijevic/
https://www.saatchiart.com/PedjaK |
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runningman67 Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Aug 2011 Posts: 1663 Location: Manchester UK
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danmusician Platinum Member
Joined: 08 Apr 2009 Posts: 875 Location: Southern PA
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Posted: Tue May 22, 2018 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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If you want a tablet format and accomplish most of the tasks you asked about, you may want to consider the Microsoft Surface Pro. It is much more of a computer in a tablet format.
I've been an Apple guy since the early 90's, but very nearly bought the Surface Pro 3 a few years ago. That was when the first iPad Pro (12.9 inch) came out. The only reason I stayed with Apple was because one of my main uses for the tablet is reading sheet music on stage. The screen ratio of the iPad is closer to the size of a sheet of paper. The Surface ratio is more for watching movies. It's great when working in horizontal orientation. But when you flip to portrait, the screen is too narrow.
With the Surface, you will be able to run full versions of many apps, rather than tablet versions like the iPad. It will also multitask much better. _________________ Kronos 2 88, Kronos Classic 73, PX-5S, Kronos 2 61, Roli Seaboard Rise 49 |
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Pedja Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 6:21 am Post subject: |
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First I want to thank you runningman67 for his last suggestions. I listened your music again, at my home (in quite), and I am really impressed. I suggest you to continue with your music, you are great talent.
Second I want to thanks to danmusician for all his opinions about iPad and notebooks. It's really help me to create final decision (I really appreciate it).
I have a notebook, I wrote about his configuration in previous post, and from my point of view, it is better then Surface Pro, and I planed to update his configuration with 8 Gb of RAM more, and mSata SSD 256 Gb or 512 Gb. I planed to do it, only because Omnisphere 2 and Keyscape, specially Keyscape to speed audio streaming.
Does somebody have some experience with Kronos and Keyscape?
Thank you again for your time and wish to help me. Best wishes to all of you!!! _________________ Pedja
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Kronos X73, Kurzweil PC3LE8, ASM Hydrasynth, Arturia Keylab mk2 61, AKAI MPC Key 61
My music: https://soundcloud.com/pedjak-1
_______________________________________
My CG Galleries:
http://www.museumofcomputerart.com/autogallery2013/autogallery_kalajdzijevic/
http://moca.virtual.museum/autogallery2015/autogallery_kalajdzijevic/
http://moca.virtual.museum/autogallery2017/autogallery_kalajdzijevic/
http://moca.virtual.museum/dablog/dablog02.htm
http://moca.virtual.museum/autogallery2019/autogallery_kalajdzijevic/
https://www.saatchiart.com/PedjaK |
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runningman67 Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed May 23, 2018 11:30 am Post subject: |
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Pedja your artwork is stunning. I would love to make music using your artwork.
I wish I had that skill. Beautiful my friend. _________________ https://m.youtube.com/user/1967runningman |
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Pedja Platinum Member
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