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Oasys sound better than Kronos?
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 5:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

rbox wrote:
matro wrote:
I have a lot of different boards from different vendors, I know where you are coming from. To me it is all about being able to create the sounds I "hear in my head" AND, very important, inspire me with presets, expansion, etc.
The new MODX is a scaled down Montage and is seems that the focus during the introduction is on the FM-X engine, which is a cool engine to be honest in particular since you with ease can layer 4,6,8 of them. MOD-7 is a more flexible engine, though...

I have come to learn that most keyboard players are preset users. Minimal tweaking. The board can be very competent and deep, they couldn't care less.


Mod-7 was one big Dissapiontment in my Oasys because it sounds very thin and dry it doesent have the full and warm Sound of an Yamaha Sy77/99 . Its in Theory very flexibel but the results doesent sound right to my ears. The Waveshaper sounds too distorted and harsh. Mod-7 has no Sweepspot in his Soundcharacter sorry to say that...no color , no nice Textur.


Well, I recently sold my 77... I do own a Montage too though.
The thing with Mod7 for me is the flexibility and uniqueness of that engine. But obviously it isn't for you.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 6:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

marc1 wrote:
And having to pay half this price for a Kronos 88 6 years after Oasys is still quite something albeit dissapointing for all the Oasys owners. But then again that's the way all things technological seem to be headed.


The way I look at it is that Korg didn't abandon the platform, but rather continued it with the Kronos. I'm happy as a clam about that! I prefer that, as opposed to having a Fantom G for one generation, and then having to change my workflow with whatever comes next.


rbox wrote:
Mod-7 was one big Dissapiontment in my Oasys because it sounds very thin and dry it doesent have the full and warm Sound of an Yamaha Sy77/99


I find MOD-7 to generally have a more "clean" sound. I made a short video comparison of the SY99 and MOD-7:





Liviou2004 wrote:

This thread is about Oasys / Kronos comparison !! (not about SY77-99 / MOD-7 !)
Why don't you open a thread about it ? It'd be interesting.


I think it's a moot point, as Kronos sounds stellar and offers more features.

I would like to see a MOD-7 thread at a later date, but am busy on a project for now. I don't have time for that huge of a discussion, so sorry about the brief segue! Face palm Laughing Brick wall
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 29, 2018 9:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mike,

A very good test wich definitely clear that question.

I must add that in the 90's, the DAC where less efficient than now. Today, the spectrums are larger. That's why a 90's digital synth seems to be warmer. In fact, it is not warmer, its DAC doesn't reproduce a so full spectrum range than the Oasys or the Kronos.
(For instance : Sooner, the first DX-7 got a 12 bit encoder so that thje sound had a low S/N ratio. So, if we wanted to reproduce a real DX7 I sound in the Oasys on in the Kronos, we should consider to add a bit crusher lmike Decimator).

I suppose its easy with Oasys or Kronos, to reproduce this spectrum limitation (some effects or EQ could do that).
What do you think Mike ?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 30, 2018 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For the most part, a bit of the answer is in a thread in the Korg Oasys section:

Oasys vs. Kronos: sound quality (11 pages)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 05, 2018 6:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may be a bit late to the discussion, but I extensively A/B'd the OASYS and Kronos at many times and never was able to hear any difference whatsoever. I would often do this when taking a sound set made for one synth and porting it to the other. I would then compare the patches on the one synth with the other, carefully matching levels etc. No difference. Some people may want to think "what cost 2 times or 3 times a Kronos must somehow be better" - but in reality, the OASYS days was a different time and a different keyboard. New technology - which always comes down in price with subsequent variations. Take it for what it's worth.
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