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Pa4x transpose to DAW problem

 
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erwinor
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:00 pm    Post subject: Pa4x transpose to DAW problem Reply with quote

Hi guys,

I am editing/recording my styles in DP9 but when I do a transpose from Pa4, DP does not recognise it.
To make it more clear.....

I have a percussion kit that Congas are on C0.
I use the transpose from PA4 to bring the sound to the physical keyboard at C3 so I can play it.
When I hit record my DAW does not record the C0 but C3 instead.

I hope I made it clear..

thank you!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I think itīs a normal behaviour.

You HIT the C3-Key so exactly that is sent to the DAW. The transpose works only local I think.

Solution :

Record it with the "wrong" values and with 2 mouseclicks convert ( transpose ) it in your DAW.

Wink
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 27, 2018 9:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Snoopy....thanks for your reply!

If I remember well I didn't have any problems when I was using another keyboard as a master.

Yes thats what I am doing ,using the transpose function to fix it....but its a little annoying... Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 28, 2018 10:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ΒΤW transposing AFTER is not the best option because if you are loop recording, lets say a drum pattern, you are always listening the wrong samples.....
You have to stop, find where are the right ones transpose them and continue....not the best option as I said earlier ......

I don't know if this is a a normal Pa4x behaviour (I didn't have this problem using other keyboards) but if there is no solution it is very disappointed.... Shocked
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

I just tried it with my PA4X-MUSIKANT ( OS from June 2018 ).

I started MIDI-OX on my PC and used the USB-Connection between Keyboard an PC.

If I transpose the key the transposed values are transmitted correctly ( pressing "C5" with transpose "+2" transmitts the "D5" value ).

If I use UpperOctave itīs the same. Pressing "C5" with "2 octaves down" transmitts the "C3" value.

Using MIDI-Preset 01, "Default", Midi-Out CH01 is set to "Upper 1".

So it must be a problem with your settings...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 10:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well after a lot of hit and miss........the "problem" is on Pa4x....

On the Global page I had this setup for playing and recording Pa4x in my DAW

MIDI IN
Ch 01 - Ch 08:off
Ch 09 : Bass
Ch 10 : Drum
Ch 11 : Percussion
Ch 12 : Acc 1
Ch 13 : Acc 2
Ch 14 : Acc 3
Ch 15 : Acc 4
Ch 16 : Acc 5

MIDI OUT
Ch 01 : Chord
All others were off.

When I set the MIDI out channels like the ones below problem solved but now it doesn't play the guitars in Guitar modeConfused Confused

Ch 01 - Ch 08:off
Ch 09 : Bass
Ch 10 : Drum
Ch 11 : Percussion
Ch 12 : Acc 1
Ch 13 : Acc 2
Ch 14 : Acc 3
Ch 15 : Acc 4
Ch 16 : Acc 5
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 8:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

maybe the problem is in front of your PA4X Very Happy Very Happy. Or itīs me because I donīt understand what you want to achieve exactly Wink

When you play the drums manually on the keyboard you should set MIDI-Out CH01 to "Upper1".

MIDI-IN CH01 to "Drums" ( or, in your DAW, move the tracks from CH01 to CH10 )
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2018 9:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Snoopy.......yes you are probably right.... Laughing Laughing

Here is what I am trying to do........

Edit the styles in my DAW.
I would like also to be able to play in real time from the Pa4x and record to the appropriate track.
.....and of course having a workable transpose function

Wink
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