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jeremykeys · Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:15 am Post subject:

I've got an ok'd original k73 and rarely these days run into note steeling. I think though that is because now when I make a combi I think about where across the keyboard I need those particular sounds. So I do a lot of splits and layers. I think I may have also just taught myself to play Ina way that saves notes. I know that may sound strange but say for example playing an orchestral combi. I've built some where I've added strings or changed some sounds. I try not to make a sound that is too dense. I've found that some sounds just don't cut through the mix and that led me to the realization that if you can't hear it, you don't need it. If I'm not mistaken there is some acoustic law of 6 decibels but I could be wrong on the number there.
The thing is, even if you are playing it, if it's not loud enough, you won't hear it in a dense mix.
Now I obviously do recognize that this may not apply to what you may be trying to accomplish and with judicious panning you can circumvent this acoustic rule.
The thing is to me though, if you have note steeling, maybe you might have just too many things going on.
No offence meant to anybody here. It's just what I've found.
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GregC · Posted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:57 pm Post subject:

[quote="jeremykeysa way that saves notes. I know that may sound strange but say for example playing an orchestral combi. I've built some where I've added strings or changed some sounds. I try not to make a sound that is too dense. I've found that some sounds just don't cut through the mix and that led me to the realization that if you can't hear it, you don't need it. If I'm not mistaken there is some acoustic law of 6 decibels but I could be wrong on the number there.
The thing is, even if you are playing it, if it's not loud enough, you won't hear it in a dense mix.
Now I obviously do recognize that this may not apply to what you may be trying .[/quote]

Which is why context is important. For live gigs or rehearsals, lets take orchestral combis as an example. The "large " orchestras are not as likely to be used- they have lots of detail and take up to 12 or more midi channels.

And the details would get lost in the rock band mix.

Recording is much different- I need the details of the large orchestra combi for a song. And I would add an AP, drawbar organ, MOD-7, ambient drums, E guitar with heavy FX. And Karma as much as possible. Thats the way I write originals- hybrid and using all 16 midi channels-most of the time.

So lots of note stealing and poof click goes polyphony. When you use multiple instruments with the great Kronos FX, then polyphony is a big deal.
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Jogger · Joined: 23 Dec 2016 Posts: 45

I bought a new 88 Kronos 2 couple years ago on Black Friday sale for $2250. Have to say best buy I made. I still have lots to learn on it as I devote more time practicing piano trying to get better. But I play in a wedding band occasionally. I've been getting better at recreating sounds on songs and editing my combi sounds. Last night played a wedding and the kronos kicked ass. Sounds turned heads. Soundman said he never heard strings sound like that real, etc. Thank you Korg and if the same Black Friday deal happens again for someone I'd go for it.

GregC · Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 7:20 pm Post subject:

jeremykeys · Posted: Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:21 pm Post subject:

I still play my Kronos almost every single day. I love building Combis out of various Progs. Sometimes you can get an amazing sound from even one key by layering. Use various delays and other EFX to add depth and motion.
The only time I've ever been disappointed is when I myself have messed something up.
I find that as I get better acquainted, my Kronos just keeps on surprising me. It may not be the "be all and end all" of systems, but it certainly is IMO the best workstation out there and quite frankly; and yes I do know that I may be in the minority; I don't care if Korg comes up with a newer, faster, bigger one. I still have yet to get a handle on the Mod7 and STR-1 engines. I haven't even touched them yet. 7 years in and still not even halfway there.
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BobTheDog · Platinum Member Joined: 21 May 2007 Posts: 1535

You should definitely look at MOD-7, best bit of the Kronos Wink

STR-1 I still haven't mastered though...

jeremykeys · Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2018 11:46 pm Post subject:

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Jogger · Joined: 23 Dec 2016 Posts: 45

A place out of Brooklyn. Pro...

Derek Cook · Posted: Wed Nov 21, 2018 9:10 pm Post subject:

magname · Joined: 21 Aug 2019 Posts: 43 Location: France

Hello,
Power is never sufficient, but can't we expect today Korg to issue a 4 cores CPU unit that will just double the power for a very current consumer CPU ?
Two cores today is quite old. Not seems to be a big deal for Korg to update to this without exploding the cost in a Korg 3.
Kronos still have same power after 8 years...
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