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[kronoSphere]

Hello NETWORK1
What you show in your post is the modx sequencer. What about the Montage sequencer ???
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[leonh]

They are very basic sequencers that why Yamaha gives you Cubase for free on its own Montage or Modx is no match for Kronos sequencer.

[NETWORK1]

[GregC]

[GregC]

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[Lightbringer]

I haven’t run into issues hitting the polyphony limit yet, at least that I’ve noticed, since the Kronos also seems to manage it pretty well. Then again I haven’t sequenced a full 16 midi tracks yet either.

Would be interesting to how many do actually hit it, and how often it’s a problem.

[vertig0spin]

[voip]

When the situation arises, the Kronos deals with voice stealing extremely effectively, and hitting the polyphony limits is rarely noticeable. In addition, the user has the ability to prioritise timbres, giving a degree of control to how the algorithm is implemented.

[stevewahl]

If a store that carries both is so far away, have you considered trying to find an individual owner closer to you that would let you try it out locally? Works for either board, may lead to the start of a new friendship!

If you are able to try locally, I envision three possibilities: I suppose you could "fall in love" with whatever you try locally, such that you just know you'll be happy with it, regardless of what the other has to offer. Or, you could find that the way it works or sounds grates on you so much that you rule it out as a contender. The third would be you're still not convinced; in which case, you still should get somewhere that you can try both in the same space eventually, but you'll be better prepared to properly explore the things that matter to you with the limited time you have there.

I'm probably the opposite of you, in that I chose the 61 key on purpose, and am nearly always playing together with someone else playing a real piano, so I use the piano sounds hardly at all.

I haven't seen a whole lot of discussion in this thread on who you are and what you plan to do with it. I imagine that the way you interact with each one, how it feels to you, should probably be the deciding factor at this point. You've written about a whole lot of technical stuff, but in the end, I get the feeling you're looking for something more portable than a grand, that still feels like one when you play it, and in the end you're going to have to feel it yourself to know which one is right.
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[leonh]

To summarise in any scenario baring the personal preferences which are very important Kronos is always better than Montage let alone MODX simple as that fell free to disagree in emotional way but technically that is it.


Previous gear Yamaha DX11,Yamaha DX7,Yamaha EX5R, Yamaha QY 700,Yamaha MOXF6,and Yamaha Montage 6 so I don't think.I am biased .

[Devnor]

Montage has some tricks up its sleeve. Computer integration is best of anything else and it can accept an audio input to drive tempo. For a Motif user, they can take their programs and load them into the new board. If you add a laptop suddenly all the limitations over the sequencer, the number of sound engines and midi channels goes away. This is how Montage was intended to be used. It doesn't have to do everything. The Kronos does basically everything but often in a klumsy and difficult way.
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[jimknopf]

Despite the well done Computer integration the Montage isn't remotely on a par with the Kronos from my view, because the Kronos has so many other important advantages over the Montage,
- like user sampling beating anything the Montage offers hands down,
then much better overall sound coverage:
- much more sample space due to sample streaming generally (for factory sounds and additional libraries)
dedicated engines for all main purposes:
- the Montage has neither a B3 clone on board
- nor 3 great VA engines with different character
- nor dedicated Piano and EP engines with their special options
- the Kreonos offers better setlist handling
- has a bigger screen for editing
- better masterkeyboard functionality
- and on top of all that both midi and audio recording on board: no additional notebook needed for fast idea recording, or for using backing tracks during a performance, not talking of other small advantages.

As I said, the Montage is a nice (though overpriced) synth. But it is not even a close match compared with the vast sound possibilitues and versatile flexibility of a musical power tool like the Kronos IMO.
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[vertig0spin]

[jimknopf]

But you are aware of the limits of two hands playing, while you trigger the looper with one foot, the piano sustain pedal with the other, and open cutoff on your VA synth via your expression pedal with the third foot, not dropping the blues harp in your teeth in the meantime?
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[GregC]