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Printed Parameter Guide for Kronos

 
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Poseidon
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 5:52 am    Post subject: Printed Parameter Guide for Kronos Reply with quote
I have just printed the Parameter Guide ( In Colour, two-sided )

I used my Xerox Phaser 6500/DN with non genuine toner cartridges.
The cost of printing is VERY LOW.
Time spend ~2 hrs.


AA battery for comparision pourpose, 594 pages of 80g/m2 Fuji Xerox
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 6:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I did it too, as soon as I got the Kronos. I have separated the manual in several leaflets, one by chapter. It is more convenient and usable like that.

But, take care of printers planned obsolescence ! The complete Kronos manuals reach about 2 thousands pages. As soon as I finished to print, my Canon reached its maximum capabilities and reject all requests with an error message. Everything were OK but a chip on the printer motherboard prevented any new prints. Despite all my researches in many forums, Youtube, etc... I had to accept that my printer was down and I had to buy a new one.

So, sometimes, even if its a bit more expensive, we'd better send the file to be printed by a professionnal service. At the end, with paper, ink cartridges and new printer, this operation did take much more money !
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
I did it, too...but not all of it. There are ways in which I significantly reduced the amount to be printed. For a start, you don't need to print off all the sections - some parts of it are so basic that you'll never need to go there anyway. You can also print two sheets to a page, and it is all still perfectly legible because of the clear and uncluttered way in which the original is laid out.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Could I just ask... What's wrong with reading PDFs on an iPad or Android tablet?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 8:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Nothing wrong with it at all. It's just a choice. For myself, I get sick of staring at screens, and so I am perfectly happy to read a piece of paper.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Korg’s manuals are very well made ( PostScript implementation ).
On laser printers that have incorporated native Adobe PS engine , the printing and processing is very fast and an exceptional quality.

Liviou2004 wrote:
I did it too, as soon as I got the Kronos. I have separated the manual in several leaflets, one by chapter. It is more convenient and usable like that.


Good idea. I am gonna use "Light Sheet Protectors A4", and make few books by chapter. As a one is too bulky.

Liviou2004 wrote:
But, take care of printers planned obsolescence ! The complete Kronos manuals reach about 2 thousands pages. As soon as I finished to print, my Canon reached its maximum capabilities and reject all requests with an error message. Everything were OK but a chip on the printer motherboard prevented any new prints. Despite all my researches in many forums, Youtube, etc... I had to accept that my printer was down and I had to buy a new one.


I am surprised that you did printing using Inkjet printer. I would not do that.
So it is recommended only for laser printers and resetting non genuine toners.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Broadwave wrote:
Could I just ask... What's wrong with reading PDFs on an iPad or Android tablet?

I don't have iPad( or similar ), and not planning to buy. I don't need it.
And like pete.m, I get sick of staring at screens.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 11:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Poseidon wrote:
I am surprised that you did printing using Inkjet printer. I would not do that.
So it is recommended only for laser printers and resetting non genuine toners.


The reason is quite simple : it was the printer I had !!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Liviou2004 wrote:
The reason is quite simple : it was the printer I had !!


These day laser printers are affordable.
They make a perfect choice when comes to costs and volume.
Inkjet make only sense if you print photographs.

If you’re in the market for a new printer, consider Xerox Phaser 6510 ( native Adobe® PostScript® 3 support ! ).
Mine is obsolete today, but if dies I would get this class of Phasers again.
Had no problems at all, and very cheap to run.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 2:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
I memorized the guide- it saves trees.






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( I wuz joking )
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote
Possibly the only book known to man thicker than the Kronos PG is the printed version of Wikipedia. Below is a pic of volume 1 of 354. Cool

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KK wrote:
Possibly the only book known to man thicker than the Kronos PG is the printed version of Wikipedia. Below is a pic of volume 1 of 354. Cool



Very cool. I can see Vol 1 and Vol 2 as a stand for my Kronos 88
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Poseidon wrote:
Liviou2004 wrote:
The reason is quite simple : it was the printer I had !!


These day laser printers are affordable.
They make a perfect choice when comes to costs and volume.
Inkjet make only sense if you print photographs.

If you’re in the market for a new printer, consider Xerox Phaser 6510 ( native Adobe® PostScript® 3 support ! ).
Mine is obsolete today, but if dies I would get this class of Phasers again.
Had no problems at all, and very cheap to run.


Thanks for this information but this printer costs about 150 $. A set of 4 new cartridges about 100 $ (but not Xerox) . This printer has been designed for a usage of 50,000 prints by months. Largely above my need.
A high capacity Xerox black cartridge costs about 150 $ and is designed for 8,000 pages.
Each color cartridge, between 70 and 90 $, don't have an identic capacity : 1,000 pages only (magenta, cyan) and 4,500 pages (yellow).

So, in conclusion, it is not worth it for my personnal usage. I print too few pages per month.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Liviou2004 wrote:
Thanks for this information but this printer costs about 150 $. A set of 4 new cartridges about 100 $ (but not Xerox) . This printer has been designed for a usage of 50,000 prints by months. Largely above my need.
A high capacity Xerox black cartridge costs about 150 $ and is designed for 8,000 pages.
Each color cartridge, between 70 and 90 $, don't have an identic capacity : 1,000 pages only (magenta, cyan) and 4,500 pages (yellow).

So, in conclusion, it is not worth it for my personnal usage. I print too few pages per month.


Well, if you print causally, than it's not for you.
Just to let you know, that for mine Phaser 6500, I pay A$89 (US$65) for set of 4 non genuine ( black, magneta, cyan, and yellow, each 3000 pgs ) from inkStation.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote
Poseidon wrote:
Liviou2004 wrote:
Thanks for this information but this printer costs about 150 $. A set of 4 new cartridges about 100 $ (but not Xerox) . This printer has been designed for a usage of 50,000 prints by months. Largely above my need.
A high capacity Xerox black cartridge costs about 150 $ and is designed for 8,000 pages.
Each color cartridge, between 70 and 90 $, don't have an identic capacity : 1,000 pages only (magenta, cyan) and 4,500 pages (yellow).

So, in conclusion, it is not worth it for my personnal usage. I print too few pages per month.


Well, if you print causally, than it's not for you.
Just to let you know, that for mine Phaser 6500, I pay A$89 (US$65) for set of 4 non genuine ( black, magneta, cyan, and yellow, each 3000 pgs ) from inkStation.


Ok, Poseidon, thank you for this info. I just gave a look at this printer which seems to be a good one. The only point is its definition : 600x600 dpi.
The point with laser printers is that we must put far more money to get the same definition than Inkjet printers. For isntance, my printer, a Canon IP7250, is a 9600x2400 DPI and here in France we can get it for about 75 $ !

Finally, I do agree with you : all depends on the volume of prints we have to do per month.
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