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[siebenhirter]

Hello,

if a musican playing styles - prepared in sb-entries / setlist - and want to change running style with next sb-entry, it can not be done without ugly rough interruptions. That is because faulty function of StyleToKbdSet, that set to Off on On always set to kbdSet#1. That is ok to initialize starting a song with predefined templates, what is another kind of usage - but it is dreadful in a running rhythm.

This topic we had in thread "Big Bug and very important functions missing. Please update" - but topic was judged as mixed up so not inevitably to repeat.
Also primary interested in Pa1000 I use index of Pa4x, because got informations from Korg Germany, same problems of ugly rough interruptions occurs with Pa4x, because StyleToKbdSet did not work like SingleTouch did in Sb-mode - but could be avoided using Pa4x new lock function "LockKbdSet".

If that really would be a solution, it would be necessary an OS-update also for Pa1000. But neither are the information enough to qualify that as solution, nor the descriptions testify this in the last manual "Pa4x-User_manual_v3.0" page 858/859:
"Keyboard Set 1-4: When this lock is closed, the four currently selected Keyboard Sets are preserved, when choosing a different Style or SongBook Entry".

That is a funny additional option but no solution, because that means by the call of the next Sb-Entries the four "locked" KbdSets are loaded instead the new four KbdSets of sb-entry. However, it is not important NOT TO LOAD new kbdSets but to PREVENT NOT TO SET KbdSet#1. Does not help, if kbdset#1 of old or new sb-entry disturb with ugly rough interruptions, NEED NOT TO ACTIVATE A KBDSET after selection of a new sb-entry but NEED TO USE LAST ACTIVE SOUNDS AND SETTINGS OF KEYBOARD-TRACKS (upper, lower and effects) without setting kbdSets, as we had easy to handle with SingleTouch playing WITHOUT BUMPY CROSSINGS BUT SOFT TRANSITIONS OF active KBD-TRACKS.

!! In sb-mode it should be able to switch over with running style to the next SB-Entry, without, besides, the change of any KbdSets is activated !!
!! Besides, the last active sound allocations (keyboard track Upper#1, #2, #3 and Lower) should remain active furthermore !!

Does function thus with the Pa4x now? I am grateful for every sensible information.

If it does, I hope to get an OS-update for this botched option also for Pa1000 that does not allow fundamental playing styles with sb-entries as we already had since years before.
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- siebenhirter, austria -

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[korg1]

In my opinion,there are several other more important bugs in songbook mode,other sections too.

For example:
- Pads still not sync
- transposed songbook entry ,doesn't always get's transposed at
1st beat,you have to press again the chord in order to work.

- Songbook entries pointing to an mp3,sometimes might choose
the wrong mp3.(Never met this bug in previous Os).

And the list goes further i am afraid.....
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[siebenhirter]

[korg1]

One of he basic functions of Songbook is this : the ability to have 4 performances of sounds for each song on the fly.

But you can try this :
- Set STYLE TO KBD SET button to OFF .Change the styles not from songbook ,but straight from their bank location.Your sound will stay the same and it change only if you press STS1 or any other STS.

Second option:
- After you pick up your 4 most prefered STS (save them at MY SETTINGS could work too ) go to Global mode -->general controls--->Lock TAB--->CONTROL tab ,and close the locker that says KEYBOARD SET 1-4.

This way you can change the song titles via songbook without changing sounds. The limitation is that you will have to use those 4 sts,until you pick some other sounds from your library .


Same way,you can lock your LOWER sound or Split mode if you wish.

Hope it helped!!!
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[siebenhirter]

[korg1]

i trully can't understand that !!
For me works great when i want to jump to another song that uses another sound or sounds in general.

If i don't want to change sounds,or if i want the same sound as the previous song,i just resave the sb entry including the sound i want,and that's it.

But really ,i even am able to change or pick one of the 4 STS the sew song has,right at the the first beat of the new song,not either this is a problem,just experiment a little bit with that and you will see that is handy and logical.

But even if that doesn't work for you ,you can still use the search function , find the next style as you play,
having ''style to kbd set'' set to off,and just change the style keeping the same sound.
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[siebenhirter]

[korg1]

Why you want to change through songbook then if you don't mind or know what sounds you want to use for each song?

My logic says that when i choose another song i want to play, there are some certain sounds i need to play for that song,so 1 to 4 sounds/song seams alright.

It would be useful to have an option not to change STS while changing sb entries,but i can not call it a bug,sorry.
As i said,when i want to use another gereric style and i don't want to change my STS i am currently using,i just change the style from their bank locations,and not from SB.

If i want next song/style to have the same tempo, i just lock it and then change to the other style,simply things,no need to do it the hard way....
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[siebenhirter]

[korg1]

For me it works just great as it is.....
When i buy a car i know it has wheels,i don't expect it to dive too,nor to fly or slide just because i want it to do it,that's what i mean...

In your case,that you don't want sb entries to change STS..... the only solution is not to use songbook entries to change the style,just change the style from it's native style bank position.

Songbook offers you the ability to use the same style with different sounds,FX,mix,balance,bpm etc,and all of them just at once .
That's the main purpose my friend.

If you don't need them ,there is no reason to use songbook.
I know many who prefer to work straight from style Banks.

What i can't understand is this :
When you jump at another song,
assuming you work non-stop styles,right?
Don't you use any style intro's or breaks/fills,etc? (You can change smoothly your sound then)

Do you play all intro's using the same sound or sounds? SAVE those 4most usable sounds either on each sb entry you make or at 'MYSETTING'' and still ,specially if you are fast enough,you can pick any of the 4 sounds you want,till the style changes.

I don't consider it a bug or''faulty function''as you mentioned. I just said that there more serious bugs and problems on keyboard than this ''wish'',''faulty'' or however you want to call it.

[siebenhirter]