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b1gb1rd
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Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 11:52 am Post subject: Limited drum slots - best way to efficiently use drum slots |
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Korg Kronos 2
I am setting up the kronos for casuals with lots of songs each with it's own midi drum pattern.
I am putting a 4 - 8 bar drum pattern as a midi track on each song - playing the rest of the song live - LH bass, & other parts
I run out of available drum slots after about 30 songs - message "no more available drum slots"
What is a more efficient way to use the available drum midi memory to be able to load up more songs in one .sng load?
thanks in advance - just figuring this beast out....running in to limits earlier than I expected
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 1:59 pm Post subject: Re: Limited drum slots - best way to efficiently use drum sl |
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b1gb1rd wrote: | Korg Kronos 2
I am setting up the kronos for casuals with lots of songs each with it's own midi drum pattern.
I am putting a 4 - 8 bar drum pattern as a midi track on each song - playing the rest of the song live - LH bass, & other parts
I run out of available drum slots after about 30 songs - message "no more available drum slots"
What is a more efficient way to use the available drum midi memory to be able to load up more songs in one .sng load?
thanks in advance - just figuring this beast out....running in to limits earlier than I expected
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Could be more of a work flow change for you. I have never experienced 'drum memory' as a problem.
Some questions;
are you using Kronos drum kits [ not GM stuff] ?
are you using midi files from other sources ?
are you using the SEQ ?
how many Songs in each 'set ' ? Seems like 30 songs for a 45 minute set is too many for 1 set
The simple solution seems to be to load your custom Song files from DISK for each set
Files mostly stream from SSD. Which is almost limitless for drum kits. If you are saving WAV files of your Songs, make sure you stream from Disk not Ram _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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b1gb1rd
Joined: 13 Feb 2017 Posts: 12
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Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 4:42 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for getting back to me greg!
I am using Kronos drum kits.
Yes - I am using a SEQ for each song
I understand I could accept the limit and load songs from disk, I just find it hard to believe there is not another way.
I am writing about 4 bars of midi data on the drum
track of each song. So only about 4 * 30 = 120 bars of midi data on drum tracks when I hit this limit " no more drum slots"
I was expecting to be able to load up all 127 sequences with drums, especially if I limit my drums to fairly small loops.
I am thinking the Kronos is designed to do what I am doing in a different way - perhaps using the user drum patterns in sequences, instead of midi
data on the drum track of the sequence.
Thanks for sharing your experience
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Sat May 18, 2019 7:54 pm Post subject: |
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b1gb1rd wrote: | Thanks for getting back to me greg!
I am using Kronos drum kits.
Yes - I am using a SEQ for each song
I understand I could accept the limit and load songs from disk, I just find it hard to believe there is not another way.
I am writing about 4 bars of midi data on the drum
track of each song. So only about 4 * 30 = 120 bars of midi data on drum tracks when I hit this limit " no more drum slots"
I was expecting to be able to load up all 127 sequences with drums, especially if I limit my drums to fairly small loops.
I am thinking the Kronos is designed to do what I am doing in a different way - perhaps using the user drum patterns in sequences, instead of midi
data on the drum track of the sequence.
Thanks for sharing your experience
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I am puzzled on this. Drum kits use little memory.
Several of my songs use all 16 midi channels, 3 or 4 drum kits, 3 or 4 patterns, easily in access of 140 bars. And I use Karma scenes for drum variation.
However this is all created on 1 slot, lets say S000.
If I have time today, I will try to duplicate your work flow, load up Kronos drum kits on 4 slots , run them out past 130 bars.
How are you doing on SSD storage ?
Are you adding lots of Fx ? Just for fun, view Performance meters for excessive note usage and note borrowing. But this should not be any problem with 4 drum kits running at once _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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