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Wich damper/sustain pedal to buy?

 
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Bartjuhx3



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 6:36 am    Post subject: Wich damper/sustain pedal to buy? Reply with quote

Hello,

I noticed that my Yamaha FC7 damper pedal is not holding the sound on my pa4x. I guess it’s not supported?

Any advice on an other supported damper pedal?

Cheers!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you configured in settings ?
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Bartjuhx3



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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes i did calibration.

Maybe my pedal is broken then..?

Any suggestions on a sustain pedal?
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karmathanever
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 12:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yamaha FC7 is not a damper pedal - it is a Control Pedal (e.g for expression/volume) - I have one and it works fine - I do not recommend using it as a damper pedal.

You need a sustain/damper pedal - most will work fine and the only advice from me is to get one with a polarity switch - e.g. the M-Audio SP2 Sustain (damper) pedal - inexpensive and very good.

You can of course configure damper pedal polarity on the PA4X itself BUT if you ever use your sustain/damper pedal on a different keyboard it might be sensible to have one with a physical polarity switch.

Cheers

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Biggles
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2019 2:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another +1 for the M Audio pedal.
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 15, 2019 11:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you play piano, dont buy plastic pedals, it has annoying noise when you press pedal.
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siebenhirter
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 8:58 am    Post subject: Re: Wich damper/sustain pedal to buy? Reply with quote

[quote="Bartjuhx3" .. supported damper pedal .. [/quote]

For solo piano playing the damper mode "Resonance/Halo" is much more realistic than the "Normal" mode you can choose in pop-up menu DamperMode.

To control the level of "Resonance/Halo" a pedal with damper function half-pedaling is recommended - it allows a fine variation of the sound.

It is not recommended to use a momentary sustain foot pedal that will send on/off messages only and does not support half-pedaling.
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Korghelper
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the OP really doesn’t seem to recognize the difference between a swell pedal and a sustain pedal or switch, I’m not sure advice about half damping is of much use..!

I’m often amazed how some people appear to have never played a real piano. If they had, the difference between a swell pedal and a damper pedal would be obvious even before they plugged it in. Embarassed
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siebenhirter
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 6:21 pm    Post subject: damper function - half-pedal Reply with quote

Korghelper wrote:
.. I’m not sure advice about half damping is of much use..!

I’m often amazed how some people appear to have never played a real piano. ..


I like it to spend informations also without to control if advice would be useful.

Which quality of information do you think has the content of your answer - do you think it better helps (korghelper) the OP to mention that you once played a piano and that you are amazed others did not?

I think keyboard players that have never played a real piano also are entitled to use damper functions!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2019 11:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They aren’t exactly hard to find, who honestly can say they have never seen or sat at one? It’s hard to imagine someone that managed to go a lifetime (no matter how short!) without seeing a piano, or sitting at one.

You don’t need to have learned piano, or owned one, or even made a living playing one. But sit at one once in your life and you would surely have noticed no swell pedal and what shape the pedals are...
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karmathanever
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2019 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I’m often amazed how some people appear to have never played a real piano. If they had, the difference between a swell pedal and a damper pedal would be obvious even before they plugged it in.


Interesting comment but a piano is a different instrument to a keyboard so I guess, conversely, many pianists have never played a keyboard.
A piano is a percussion instrument whereas a keyboard is not.

I've never played an accordion, or harpsichord.

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