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yeskeys · Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:05 pm Post subject: Wavesequence option

I used to love my Oberheim Xpander because you could set up six patches in multi-timbral mode, and every note on event would cycle through them, generating a different sound every time you would play a new note.

So I was psyched when I found that I could do close the same thing with a wavesequence, by 1) turning off Run, and 2)turning on Note Advance.

Assign that WS to a new HD1 program (polyphonic).

You can then play each step of the WS polyphonically, until you release all notes and then the next step of the WS can be played, etc. OR just play a melody with a different sample on each note.

This can also sound really interesting when using Karma - depending on the GE, each WS step might play polyphonically and then step forward, or every note will advance the wavesequence.

What I don't understand is why this very powerful technique isn't employed in most, if not all, the factory presets.
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psionic311 · Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 7:30 pm Post subject:

Hey, great to see someone else exploring the wave sequence feature! They say the Kronos has 9 engines, but I really consider this the 10th.

I don't know why there aren't more presets, it really seems underutilized. The Note-On advance is really useful, and I think several 3rd party expansions use the technique to get round robin sample playback.

You can also sync the wavesequence so that it will play along in time to MIDI clock. You have to de-select Note Sync to do this. Otherwise, if you enable Note-Sync, it plays immediately after key press, ignoring the clock.

The Kronos has all the rom sounds from the original Wavestation. It also has most of the Prophet VS waves. And there are also many single-cycle waves you can load up as well.

Check out Postman's contribution. He basically re-created the Wavestation factory presets.

http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=97573&highlight=wavestation

yeskeys · Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:09 pm Post subject:

I used to go to NAMM back in the day. I'll never forget the first time I heard the Wavestation, I was utterly blown away! Of course the concept was brand new, the Korg demo had all that s**t synchronized and I about had a heart attack. I actually took out a loan to buy one the second it came out. I eventually got the AD, and then the 1 rack SR, which really sounded terrible compared to the AD.

They were a huge pain to program however, the Kronos makes it so easy and adds some great features. I only wish the steps could access the entire range of samples, meaning the DRUM SAMPLES. Am I missing something?
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KK · Platinum Member Joined: 13 Oct 2016 Posts: 1422

As an easy and fun experiment, try what you mention with the five following samples in EXs1 ROM Expansion Mono : 0134 to 0138, named PC Voice 1-14 to PC Voice 1-18. Wink

As a side note, I owned a WS A/D as well. Before I sold it to buy my new K2, I sampled the best programs I made out of it and also took note of how my favorite custom programs were made. The Kronos can do exactly the same and so much more.

psionic311 · Posted: Mon Aug 19, 2019 10:57 pm Post subject:

I was surprised that you can't access any of the DrumSamples in the HD1 engine. Looks like it's best to import custom drums.

For basic work, there are some drum samples in the Wavestation category (found between the Synth Waves and Single Waves). They're 911-922.

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I tried out waves Exs1 mono 134-145. It's not quite Speak and Spell. To me it sounds like it's saying:

K O R C K what time is sysex dot oh k.

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Liviou2004 · Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 11:55 am Post subject:

Here are two aspects of the Wavesequences that I've never seen used either in factory sounds or third party :

1°) Using a HD-1 Prog with two osc, its possible to set a delay for one of the OSC (up to 5,000 ms). So, when you play a note, the OSC 1 is playing immediatly and the OSC 2 plays after the delay time.
As a wavesequence can use up to 64 steps, its possible to play two wavesequences, one after the other and so, to get a 128 steps sequence !!! Of course, we have to do the right timing setting.

2°) As its possible to set the step durations down to 10ms, we are near of the granular synthesis caracteristic. Here is a point good to explore.

3°) A more common point : its possible to set two samples playing on the same velocity setting, on one OSC, its so possible to get 4 wavesequences playing at the same time just on one HD-1 Prog !

psionic311 · Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 2:48 pm Post subject:

CharlesFerraro · Posted: Tue Aug 20, 2019 9:46 pm Post subject:

Liviou2004 · Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 7:12 am Post subject:

CharlesFerraro · Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 9:24 am Post subject:

haha infinite wave sequences with sampling!

Liviou2004 · Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2019 12:16 pm Post subject:

Liviou2004 · Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2019 9:34 am Post subject:

Here is another very interesting feature : It is possible to expand or compress the duration of a wavesequence thanks to the "Duration" parameter.
It can be set from 1% to 400%. If set to 100% the duration is unchanged. But if 1%, the initial duration is divided by 100 ! "Duration" can be modulated by an AMS as a S&H LFO for instance.