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b1gb1rd
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:02 pm Post subject: Kronos Ii - Drum sounds - mix |
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I'm confused about how to edit the relative mix of a drum kit.
I'm using SEQ mode and have decided to use AA-107 Funk Kit for drums on all my sequences. I want to lower the kick level on the kit.
In Global mode - I see the Funk Kit in I-26 - I am not able to find Funk Kit in AA-107 from global mode. Changes I make in I-26 Funk Kit in global mode are not reflected in AA-107 Funk Kit I am using in my sequences. Changes I make in global mode are not even reflected in the sound I am hearing in global mode. For example I like the kick on C2 - some Kronos sequences are using B1 for a kick - making it sound like a different kick. When I set the samples on B-1 to match C2 in Global mode - the change is not reflected in what I hear while playing the kit in Global mode.
I tried saving Funk Kit - using Global > Write Drum Kit - to a new kit location AA-00 - I can see this location in GLobal mode - but not in sequence mode.
Once again - the changes I see in the samples assigned to keys B1 and C2 are present in kit location AA-00 - but when I play them on the keyboard - I don't hear the new samples - I still hear the different sample on B1 compared to C2 even though on screen I can see the samples in B1 and C2 are now the same.
Confused ~~~
Help?
thanks
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SKung Full Member
Joined: 20 Aug 2011 Posts: 179
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:24 pm Post subject: |
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The term 'drumkit' is a bit confusing. AA-107 is a program. That Program uses a drumkit (aka multisample) as its sound source.
Go to program mode and open the AA-107 Funk Kit.
In the OSC section you find the drumkit (multisample) that the program AA-107 uses.
Go to global mode and open the drumkit that the program AA-107 uses. |
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HardSync Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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I don't have a Kronos so I can't check to see which global drum kit AA-107 uses (and the program number doesn't seem to correspond with the docs I have saved). I can see from the Voice Name List documentation that there are two global funk kits -- one is a mono kit at INT-16 and the other, which you mention, is INT-26. So for a start, make sure that program AA-107 is actually using INT-26, and not INT-16 or anything else. You'll do that in program mode, not global. So call up your funk kit program AA-107 in program mode and check the P2–1: OSC1 Basic page and confirm which global kit is assigned to the program.
As a general rule, I would recommend making a copy of the drum kit you want to change and edit the copy instead of editing the original kit. It's your choice though. Secondarily, I would recommend saving a new version of the drum kit program too. So, the workflow for editing drum kits could be:
1. Switch to Program Mode and call up the drum kit you want to change. (AA-107)
2. Take note of the global kit it uses.
3. Switch to Global Mode and find that global kit.
4. Use the copy drum kit command and save it to a empty slot.
5. Edit the newly-saved copy as desired.
6. Use the write drum kit command to save the new kit in global.
7. Switch back to program mode and change the drum kit on the P2–1: OSC1 Basic to match your new drum kit.
8. Save the drum program to an empty program slot.
Now, in your sequence, you can assign your new drum program to your track and it should have all the changes you've made.
(I had to edit this, as I left out the write drum kit command in the first go. Sorry.) |
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 6:15 pm Post subject: Re: Kronos Ii - Drum sounds - mix |
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b1gb1rd wrote: | I'm confused about how to edit the relative mix of a drum kit.
I'm using SEQ mode and have decided to use AA-107 Funk Kit for drums on all my sequences. I want to lower the kick level on the kit.
Help?
thanks
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clarify ' kick level '
entire kit or part of drum kit ?
like bass drum or kick drum ?
Pitch ?
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KK Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 08, 2019 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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You have to first select the right key in any drumkit (here in INT-26) to modify its corresponding samples and parameters, otherwise you're making changes to the wrong key/sound. |
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b1gb1rd
Joined: 13 Feb 2017 Posts: 12
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:24 pm Post subject: Thanks for your replies - I figured it out no |
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I edit the levels and samples for each key and velocity in global mode.
I was confused because the kick I was hearing in my midi file - was not on the key I thought it was on - so my edits had no effect - more hair loss ....
thanks again |
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b1gb1rd
Joined: 13 Feb 2017 Posts: 12
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 3:27 pm Post subject: Thanks for your replies - I figured it out no |
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I edit the levels and samples for each key and velocity in global mode.
I was confused because the kick I was hearing in my midi file - was not on the key I thought it was on - so my edits had no effect - more hair loss ....
thanks again |
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CharlesFerraro Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Feb 2010 Posts: 955 Location: California
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Posted: Fri Oct 18, 2019 6:34 pm Post subject: |
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If I’m not mistaken, all kicks are routed to IFX 2. So just throw a stereo limiter on there and adjust the volume as necessary. Make sure you’re using the drum routing as opposed to routing the whole kit to an effect.
I’m in the middle of a move but if you have questions I might be able to make a video for you in a few days. |
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