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Jan1 · Platinum Member Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 765

As a sidenote concerning the Behringer tease, I can’t imagine a 3-part lengthy teasing period for just a touch screen mixing console or a modular system (which alledgedly has been in development for 30 years), and I’m beginning to think that the rumor of a workstation may be true after all.

Koekepan · Platinum Member Joined: 27 Sep 2016 Posts: 617

Don't know whether they're specifically saying that it's been in development for thirty years, or just that Uli's had it in the back of his mind for thirty years.

I could still see it being modular - but I'm not sure why Behringer would do that. Maybe to enter the module world the same way that they did the pedal world?

It could be a drum machine along the lines of an MPC, which is philosophically adjacent to a workstation, I suppose. They've been around that long too, haven't they?

Scott · Platinum Member Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 1015

Koekepan · Platinum Member Joined: 27 Sep 2016 Posts: 617

A tuner, then.

Probably a tuner in Realtree - or maybe an option for Mossy Oak as well.

Now I have a mental image of an M1 clone, with handles for transport, in Mossy Oak. That will beat the Fantom in the marketplace!

Poseidon · Senior Member Joined: 08 Jul 2018 Posts: 373

Roland Fantom review By Dave Stewart (Sound On Sound)

Part I -> https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/roland-fantom
Part II -> https://www.soundonsound.com/reviews/roland-fantom?page=2

GregC · Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:01 pm Post subject:

Koekepan · Platinum Member Joined: 27 Sep 2016 Posts: 617

Looks as if the PC4 is more of a workstation than the Roland, at this point.

Go, Kurzweil!

GregC · Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2019 5:57 pm Post subject:

if so, the PC4, at $2000 is a no brainer compared to a $4000

maybe a basic comparison and looking at the ' sum of all parts ' would be educational
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Scott · Platinum Member Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 1015

I think the biggest advantage of the Fantom is in its operational ergonomics. It has a LOT more knobs/sliders/buttons than the PC4, including a whole bank of controls dedicated to synth functions, and endless knobs with LED indicators, and LED indicators on the sliders, and a set of trigger pads, and a pitch/mod lever in addition to its wheels, and touchscreen operation. The other big advantage is probably its Logic/Mainstage integration.

Besides being a lot cheaper, PC4 advantages include much lighter travel weight on an 88 (the only size available), a drawbar organ engine, an FM synth engine, optional ribbon, 2 GB of space for loading custom keyboard-playable sounds.

Which sounds and action you prefer will be subjective, though by reputation, it seems like most would probably say the Roland has the better action.

Koekepan · Platinum Member Joined: 27 Sep 2016 Posts: 617

The VAST engine is also a pretty big selling point for the Kurzweil. It's a mature, incredibly capable system.

The other factor is that the Kurzweil has real linear sequencing, which Roland (as we've discovered) doesn't do on the new Fantom at all. From a compositional standpoint, this is a killer feature that Roland has just decided to ignore, for reasons best known to themselves.

GregC · Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 3:36 pm Post subject:

Scott · Platinum Member Joined: 16 Oct 2009 Posts: 1015

I find PC4 screen readability to be better than Kronos. As you'd expect, the PC4's much smaller screen also means it does not present nearly as much information on the screen at once. But even though there is still small type, the resolution/contrast is better.

GregC · Posted: Fri Nov 08, 2019 5:03 pm Post subject:

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