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UD-BT01 Wireless MIDI Adaptor- won't connect with PA4X/PA300
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pa4x_user
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 2:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have looked through the midi settings for Pa4X and there is nothing obvious to me, except of course the Control Channel.

Whilst this is not an ideal solution, try this as a debugging experiment (ie try using Ch1 instead of Ch 16 as the Control Channel). It shouldn’t make any difference, but you never know -

- Connect the UD-BT01 only to your Pa4x
- Reboot iPad, startup Songbook+ and only connect Bluetooth to the UD device
- Change control channel to Ch1 on the Pa4X and in Songbook+
- Obviously disable any other use of Ch1 setting in the Pa4X midi settings such as for a voice



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 3:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I changed to Ch1 as per your suggestions with only the UD connected, but no difference.
I then disconnected the UD and fired up the MD, still using Channel 1 setting as you suggested on the iPad and Songbook+ , and the PA4x responded and worked fine.
So changing to Channel 1 produced the same result as Ch 16.
UD- not working and MD - worked.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rosco_Australia wrote:
Hello PA4x_user
Yes, you are correct. Sorry for the confusion
MD-BT01 works fine for past 2 years. Two plugs into midi in/midi out into the PA4x. Self powered
UD-BT-01, new addition. One plug into the host port. Needs 240V in the wall.
I can see both of these on the Songbook+/ Bluetooth MIDI devides on iPad and can connect both, and see lights stay on the units when they are connected.
So connections are made.
As I said MD works fine with the PA4x , but UD won't respond.
The problems seems to lie with the PA4x responding to the UD-BT01.
Is their any setting on the PA4X that I need to change?
Regards, Ross


When you start up the system, have your iPad off. Power up the ud first.Then turn on Korg. Then turn on iPad and songbook app to connect. If it still does not work do a soft boot on iPad. I had this problem of not connecting once or twice and ever time this happen was when I had the iPad app on first.
If the md works, you should have the correct settings on Pa4x and iPad.
I work a gig 6 nights with the ud, so it is proven to work with Songbook + app flawlessly.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 09, 2020 7:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rosco,

If you cannot solve your problem, read on -

You have not actually said what the endgame is, but I am inferring that you want to be able to use the PA300 standalone (in addition to the Pa4X) whilst using Songbook+ to pop all the settings on the PA300 automatically? And maybe change settings on the PA300 mid-song.

Is that the aim, there ‘may’ be another way of doing it?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 13, 2020 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did have an instant where the Quicco mi.1 did not communicate this week while using it at home. Found out there was a bad wire connection to the midi in/out.
So in the case of the ud-bt01, I would change out the usb cable. Even try the new current usb cable to see if it connects the pa to the computer. I had a friend whom contacted me awhile back and as we went through the troubleshoot, found the usb cable was defective.
Just to correct the settings in the edit portion of a SongbookPlus pdf, all you need to do is put in songbook number, all other switches off.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 04, 2020 5:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Guys,
Just back home after 3 weeks away.. it was supposed to be 52 weeks but COVID has shut all the caravan parks in Oz.
I just updated my software to 3.1.0 and I thought I would have another go at getting the UD-BT01 to connect to the PA4x.
Unfortunately no luck.
Is their anyone using the UD-BT01 who can run me through how they connect to the iPad? As I mentioned I have been using the MD-BT01 on my PA4x for the past two years and it works fine.
I can connect them both to the PA4x and the MD (midi IN/OUT) works and the UD (USB to host)doesn't. I turn the connection on for each via the Songbook+ app on the iPad.
Very strange that MD works and the UD doesn't
Any help appreciated.
Rosco
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Rosco,

itīs definitvely a problem of the UD-BT Device. But not of yours, itīs in general.

I tried it 4 ? years ago on my Ketron Audya 5, it didnīt work as well.

The MD-BT worked fine, so it does on my PA4X.

It must be a wrong protocol and / or power problem that canīt be solved.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 10, 2020 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Rosco,

itīs definitvely a problem of the UD-BT Device. But not of yours, itīs in general.

I tried it 4 ? years ago on my Ketron Audya 5, it didnīt work as well.

The MD-BT worked fine, so it does on my PA4X.

It must be a wrong protocol and / or power problem that canīt be solved.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 24, 2020 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Snoopy. At least I know it is not something I am doing.
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