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keithwjones Full Member
Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 146 Location: Somerset, UK (Pa4x-76)
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 5:59 pm Post subject: Maxx Master EQ |
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I have come from a Pa800 to a Pa4x-76 with PaAS. I am purely a home player and do not use a microphone.
I found the sound flat with no punch especially on solo instruments such as Sax. When I did some research I was not the only one.
I found the settings from Jonyblues back in 2016:
http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=105261
I have added these settings and I am now getting the sound that I want. Thank you Jon.
I have noticed that the bass was a bit heavy on the style. How is the best way to lower that. I am thinking that if it is an issue on many styles that I change Master > Bass > Intensity. Alternatively lower sound on Bass in style.
Are ther any other recorded settings? From a searh everyone seems to rate Jon's settings.
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pa4x_user Senior Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 9:29 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, Jonyblues settings are fantastic, it was like a new instrument when I dialled them in.
I agree that the bass in styles is often too loud (as in bass guitar), not the EQ bass, and I usually just adjust it in the Style track, then save to the songbook. _________________ Korg Pa4X (OS NEXT 3.1.0)
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keithwjones Full Member
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Posted: Mon Apr 13, 2020 10:01 pm Post subject: |
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Quote: | I usually just adjust it in the Style track |
Thanks for input. Do you mean just lower the sound level?
Out of the box I am sure the Pa800 had more punch, I never changed any settings like this.
I find it strange that you have to go, where a lot will not want to go, to change settings to get a decent sound.
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pa4x_user Senior Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:21 am Post subject: |
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"Do you mean just lower the sound level?"
No.
When you are in Style mode, select 'volume' from the lower menu on the touch screen, then press the TRK SEL button to display all the parts in the accompaniment style. If you touch the volume slider for a instrument part on the touchscreen, you can then adjust the volume for the selected part (eg use data wheel).
If you touch on the instrument icon above its volume display, you can select alternate instruments (something I often do for a bass instrument, and many others).
Press TRK SEL again to return to the normal style view.
Any changes you make will be saved if you create/overwrite a Songbook entry. _________________ Korg Pa4X (OS NEXT 3.1.0)
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keithwjones Full Member
Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 146 Location: Somerset, UK (Pa4x-76)
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 9:36 am Post subject: |
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Thank you pa4x_user - I understand.
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korg1 Approved Merchant
Joined: 17 Nov 2002 Posts: 955 Location: http://pasongstyles.com/
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Jonyblues settings are ok as long as you use it at home or with Johny's PA system plus his styles.
If you use it with another PA system,with your own styles etc, it might not sound good .
Depending the dynamics that your styles have ,your Maxx audio settings should be adjusted.
If you want all styles,factory or user to work well and clean,then
only solution is to use an analyzer software or hardware and adjust the MAXXaudio settings so you can clean all mid freq,and have an overall nice sound on any PA system you use .
TRY THIS SETTINGS AS A START :
EQ:
IN=BELL OUT=BELL
GAIN: 0.3 | 1.1 |-3.1 | 00 | 00 |0.3 |0.8 |
FREQ: 51 | 81 |304 |645 |2734|7298|10321|
Q :1.98| 1.19|2.62|0.88|1.02| 1.33| 0.43 |
on/off:ON | ON | ON | ON | ON | ON | ON |
MASTER:
BASS=20.5 ,TREBLE=1.6,STEREO=37=VOLUME=7.5 _________________
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keithwjones Full Member
Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 146 Location: Somerset, UK (Pa4x-76)
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks korg1, I've now loaded your settings in as well.
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karmathanever Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 4:03 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks guys!!!
Have tried both!! So much better than my settings for sure.
Take care
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korg1 Approved Merchant
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Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 6:28 pm Post subject: |
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This settings not only works for all PA systems abut also brings all levels from various styles more close to each other by removing those annoying mid range.
You should also hear your styles clearer and more detailed than before. _________________
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Ron Full Member
Joined: 28 Nov 2008 Posts: 183 Location: Loudon, TN
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 11:46 am Post subject: |
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Here’s one more set of MAXXEQ if anyone cares to try. Discussion here on this forum sometime back got me started experimenting with these settings. Great improvement to the overall sound in my situation which is a home studio – a room of about 15 ft x 15 ft – with 4-JBL 8” 2-way studio monitors in a criss-cross surround plus a 12” sub-woofer.
The settings bring out the bass and treble in a smooth curve which I think is what you want unless you have an unusual situation.
MAXXEQ = ON
Bell in, Bell out
2.8, 2.0, 0.8, 0.0, 2.8, 3.4, 3.7
48, 81, 136, 645, 2734, 6502, 12274
0.4, 0.51, 0.82, 0.88, 0.63, 0.60, 0.46
All on
Bass On at 12.6 (I have all I need with the sub-woofer)
Treble On at 56.7
Stereo On at 55.1 (Might be a bit high but it works well for my surround set-up)
Volume On at 9.1
Keep in mind, different equipment in different situations may require different settings but these work well in my case.
Would appreciate feedback from anyone that decides to try these.
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seaside Full Member
Joined: 07 Sep 2016 Posts: 120 Location: South Wales UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:08 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Korg 1 ,much better than mine -Terry |
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korg1 Approved Merchant
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keith-helen Senior Member
Joined: 28 Jan 2008 Posts: 275 Location: brighton, u.k
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:39 pm Post subject: |
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a big thank you to you all.
I have inserted all your figures (which was a remarkable feat for me) and it has made a tremendous difference.
This is an area where I would have never ever explored. So once again a big thank you to you all for sharing.
best wishes and stay safe
keith lawton _________________ keith lawton
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previous Yamahas, Technics KN800 KN 1000 Roland G800 and G1000, Korg M1,i3, i30HD PA 80 PA 800,
and PaAs have now got left handed banjo |
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keithwjones Full Member
Joined: 26 Feb 2008 Posts: 146 Location: Somerset, UK (Pa4x-76)
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:41 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Ron, I'll load those in as well.
That will make the 3 settings I am looking at.
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BR Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed Apr 15, 2020 5:55 pm Post subject: |
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korg1 wrote: | ...
TRY THIS SETTINGS AS A START :
EQ:
IN=BELL OUT=BELL
GAIN: 0.3 | 1.1 |-3.1 | 00 | 00 |0.3 |0.8 |
FREQ: 51 | 81 |304 |645 |2734|7298|10321|
Q :1.98| 1.19|2.62|0.88|1.02| 1.33| 0.43 |
on/off:ON | ON | ON | ON | ON | ON | ON |
MASTER:
BASS=20.5 ,TREBLE=1.6,STEREO=37=VOLUME=7.5 |
Thanks korg1, I will try your MAXX audio setting.
Just one question, what does it mean IN=BELL OUT=BELL? |
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