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Geoff Flynn Full Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Put me down for an updated OS please.
As an Oasys owner I won't hold my breath though........ |
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Liviou2004 Platinum Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2017 Posts: 1150 Location: France
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:47 pm Post subject: |
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If there were a way to convince Korg to be more respectful of its Kronos customers....
Even if the Kronos is so powerful, some bugs are remaining and many enhancements could be done, based on the present system.
So yes, I do want Korg to be back and involve in its flagship synth. Even if Korg people plan to replace it, many people has got a Kronos and derserve a better attention.
It's my opinion. |
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Mike Conway Approved Merchant
Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 2433 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:56 pm Post subject: |
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HardSync wrote: | I'm beginning to think my dates are well off here. Can't be 13 years. Has to be less than that... but oh, well... however long it's been, I've wanted one. |
Next year is the 10 year anniversary of Kronos. I don't think there will be updates, as efforts are likely being focused towards the new platform.
To answer Greg's question, I'm perfectly happy with Kronos the way it is, but updates are always welcome. |
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:57 pm Post subject: |
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Geoff Flynn wrote: | Put me down for an updated OS please.
As an Oasys owner I won't hold my breath though........ |
Thank you, Geoff ! Yes, many of us are familiar with the Oasys saga.
Thats a scar that won't fade. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:00 pm Post subject: |
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Liviou2004 wrote: | If there were a way to convince Korg to be more respectful of its Kronos customers....
Even if the Kronos is so powerful, some bugs are remaining and many enhancements could be done, based on the present system.
So yes, I do want Korg to be back and involve in its flagship synth. Even if Korg people plan to replace it, many people has got a Kronos and derserve a better attention.
It's my opinion. |
I agree with you 100%, Fred
This is why I brought up the importance of communication to the community.
Roland, Nord, Yamaha, are doing a good job. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:01 pm Post subject: |
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Mike Conway wrote: | HardSync wrote: | I'm beginning to think my dates are well off here. Can't be 13 years. Has to be less than that... but oh, well... however long it's been, I've wanted one. |
Next year is the 10 year anniversary of Kronos. I don't think there will be updates, as efforts are likely being focused towards the new platform.
To answer Greg's question, I'm perfectly happy with Kronos the way it is, but updates are always welcome. |
Hi Mike, that sounds " official ". careful with that NDA, buddy
I love my Kronos,of course. However, there is always room for more love _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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Mike Conway Approved Merchant
Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 2433 Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Rumors, Greg. I said, "likely."
I'll sign an NDA, if I can work on the prototype.
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GregC Platinum Member
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Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Mike Conway wrote: | Rumors, Greg. I said, "likely." |
all righty, Predicting the future is another topic. FYI, I am no bueno at predicting _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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Liviou2004 Platinum Member
Joined: 20 Feb 2017 Posts: 1150 Location: France
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:39 am Post subject: |
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Actually, it's not so much a matter of "perpetual enhancement" than a matter of presence and paying attention toward Kronos' people.
Of course, the Kronos is THE "big one". And many people do wonderful job with it. We all enjoy its capabilities.
Personnaly I don't suffer this kind of "always-something-new syndrom" which seems to be the musical gear tendency, nowadays.
To my opinion, the biggest problem and weakness stands on the absence of dialog, an absolute emptiness coming - or rather not coming - from Korg Teams.
Yet, it would be not too complicated for them to open a special thread in this forum for example, reserved for Korg development team, or directly on the Korg website, where they could inform us about issues, corrections, enhancements. Just for showing us that they have heard us and pay attention to our difficulties.
Some brands are doing that and the customers enjoy it.
Because their name is "Korg", perhaps they beleive the company is the "King" and cannot die. If it's the case, it's a terrible fault. Korg company can actually die if they go on scroning the "poor" customers we are.
So, if someone from Korg team reads this post, I'm saying to you "Show you are considering us : speak to all of us, it's not hard to do. Simply open an official thread here and regularly post news about the most important subjects we are speaking of."
So, what I'm saying can be summarize in one word "CO-MU-NI-CA-TION" !! |
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:24 pm Post subject: |
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Liviou2004 wrote: | Actually, it's not so much a matter of "perpetual enhancement" than a matter of presence and paying attention toward Kronos' people.
Of course, the Kronos is THE "big one". And many people do wonderful job with it. We all enjoy its capabilities.
Personnaly I don't suffer this kind of "always-something-new syndrom" which seems to be the musical gear tendency, nowadays.
To my opinion, the biggest problem and weakness stands on the absence of dialog, an absolute emptiness coming - or rather not coming - from Korg Teams.
Yet, it would be not too complicated for them to open a special thread in this forum for example, reserved for Korg development team, or directly on the Korg website, where they could inform us about issues, corrections, enhancements. Just for showing us that they have heard us and pay attention to our difficulties.
Some brands are doing that and the customers enjoy it.
Because their name is "Korg", perhaps they beleive the company is the "King" and cannot die. If it's the case, it's a terrible fault. Korg company can actually die if they go on scroning the "poor" customers we are.
So, if someone from Korg team reads this post, I'm saying to you "Show you are considering us : speak to all of us, it's not hard to do. Simply open an official thread here and regularly post news about the most important subjects we are speaking of."
So, what I'm saying can be summarize in one word "CO-MU-NI-CA-TION" !! |
I agree , Fred. I have asserted that the NDA's at Korg have prohibited natural dialogue between Korg, the corporate entity, and us, the customer.
I recall Korg wants their end customers to communicate to their retailers, and possibly the country distributors for certain important issues such as 'ongoing product enhancements '.
The reality is this is an empty solution for the customer. Retailers and country distributors will not specifically comment or provide anything enlightening on that important topic.
I understand no one wants to be fired for breaking , or being perceived for breaking s company/employer rule. Or breaking a long time business relationship with a Korg.
If this is the primary issue, this " communicationblock " can be solved.
Korg can amend their NDA's.
As I noted above, Roland, Yamaha and Nord don't have a problem talking directly to their end customers.
Yes sir. Communication. I like it.
They have figured it out. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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HardSync Platinum Member
Joined: 07 Jan 2011 Posts: 794
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:05 pm Post subject: |
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First, I apologize if my post yesterday was a bit snippy. Sorry, Greg, and everyone else. I'm kinda grumpy because of a work injury that led to a pinched nerve and I can't play my synths right now -- well, not without considerable pain in my arm. Tough to even type, but I'm managing it.
Second, re communication from Korg. Does anyone else remember somebody saying they wrote a letter or email to the president of Korg Inc. and got an actual reply in return? I recall that... could have been quite a few years ago, and maybe I made it up or misremembered. But if that is true, maybe we can organize a group campaign to address the grievances you folk are having. Polite, considerate, focused and sincere campaign.
Because the few employees that do visit this forum, they're not in charge. They don't get much say in what happens. At best, they can share info they read here up the chain, and maybe that might help sometimes. But if you really want Korg to do better, you're gonna have to aim a lot higher than the designers and typical customer service reps. You gotta aim for the people who are responsible for the company's overall business.
Just a thought... (and I'm not one to organize these things...but maybe some of you are...) |
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kronoSphere Platinum Member
Joined: 04 Jan 2012 Posts: 697
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:48 pm Post subject: |
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I remember to have been lucky to meet Michel Deuchst some years ago : he was and still is a very helpful, and also a very attentive guy to the suggestions made by people who had bought one of the Korg products.
He is not the only one, and here in this forum, many who are linked professionnaly with Korg help us every day, but sometimes it is very difficult to have the real opportunity and much time to talk to them. _________________ trees are going fast.
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:40 pm Post subject: |
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HardSync wrote: | First, I apologize if my post yesterday was a bit snippy. Sorry, Greg, and everyone else. I'm kinda grumpy because of a work injury that led to a pinched nerve and I can't play my synths right now -- well, not without considerable pain in my arm. Tough to even type, but I'm managing it.
Second, re communication from Korg. Does anyone else remember somebody saying they wrote a letter or email to the president of Korg Inc. and got an actual reply in return? I recall that... could have been quite a few years ago, and maybe I made it up or misremembered. But if that is true, maybe we can organize a group campaign to address the grievances you folk are having. Polite, considerate, focused and sincere campaign.
Because the few employees that do visit this forum, they're not in charge. They don't get much say in what happens. At best, they can share info they read here up the chain, and maybe that might help sometimes. But if you really want Korg to do better, you're gonna have to aim a lot higher than the designers and typical customer service reps. You gotta aim for the people who are responsible for the company's overall business.
Just a thought... (and I'm not one to organize these things...but maybe some of you are...) |
hey brother, I never notice the snip. Conversely, I am good at making some people cranky.
I am the instigator of "write a letter to the CEO/President/Board of Sony Japan "
I provided all the contact info. And no email. Forget that.
I also recall someone said my idea made no sense, it was dumb, etc etc etc
Funny how its difficult to gain agreement
I 100% agree with you. The worker bees have next to zero influence at Korg Japan.
No one at Korg is going to take my topic on the " Internet " seriously.
However. Point of my post is to check in with Kronos owners. To see if they support OS enhancement to Kronos.
A simple Yes . Or a simple No.
Are 'enough ' Kronos owners serious about wanting OS product enhancement ?
Thats my question. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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HardSync Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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GregC wrote: | However. Point of my post is to check in with Kronos owners. To see if they support OS enhancement to Kronos.
A simple Yes . Or a simple No.
Are 'enough ' Kronos owners serious about wanting OS product enhancement ?
Thats my question. |
Yes, then. In the interest of someone who wants to own a Kronos, and staying on topic, I say yes. |
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GregC Platinum Member
Joined: 15 May 2002 Posts: 9451 Location: Discovery Bay (San Francisco Bay Area)
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:18 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you !
And this is my plan.
If I gather/see a volume of YES, I will correspond with the Korg Japan Board[ CEO, president etc]
Conversely, if Kronos owners are not interested, motivated, what have you, that concludes the effort.
Throughout my life, career, one has to assert what they want, what they believe they deserve.
Getting improvement does not happen automatically. One has to work for it. _________________ Kronos 88. MODX8
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