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PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@SAM CA,
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I imported the midi file into DAW and this is what I'm seeing. This intro is 20 bars long. Tracks 12 and 13 (ACC1 & 2) still have midi events in bar 20. Unless you remove those notes, ACC1 & 2 will continue playing in bar 20. If you don't want that, you should remove them all....and shorten that long note that extends all the way into bar 20. This single note can't be deleted. It has to be shortened so it won't drop into bar 20 or whatever your cutoff point is.

Before you delete stuff, make sure they're pasted into new tracks already.






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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ Korg1 & Korghelper,
Thanks for your replies and trying to help.
Actually it was easier for me to send the file to SAM (thanks to him) for analyzing than explaining all in details.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam CA wrote:
I imported the midi file into DAW and this is what I'm seeing. This intro is 20 bars long. Tracks 12 and 13 (ACC1 & 2) still have midi events in bar 20. Unless you remove those notes, ACC1 & 2 will continue playing in bar 20. If you don't want that, you should remove them all....and shorten that long note that extends all the way into bar 20. This single note can't be deleted. It has to be shortened so it won't drop into bar 20 or whatever your cutoff point is.

Before you delete stuff, make sure they're pasted into new tracks already.





Thanks Sam for helping.
I deleted the events of Tracks 12 and 13 (ACC1 & 2) in bar 20. It plays correctly in my DAW but when imported to PA4X ,
I still hear unwanted sounds at bar 20.
I tried to detect these unwanted sounds by mute/unmute each track one by one (in Style Record mode) but couldn't hear (or replicate) them.
So not resolved yet.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 16, 2020 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BR,

I assume you sent me the latest version which is the one you say you've deleted the content of bar 20 for Acc1 & 2. Clearly, there's a lot of midi events still in there as shown in this pic.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 12:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sam CA wrote:
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I assume you sent me the latest version which is the one you say you've deleted the content of bar 20 for Acc1 & 2. Clearly, there's a lot of midi events still in there as shown in this pic.

Yes, but to make sure I've sent you another file that I just did an hour ago.

Thanks

Here is my Intro in a DAW:
INTRO-Pa4-X
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 3:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just looked at the 2nd file you sent. I still see a midi event extending into bar 20 (Acc2 track). Here it is:





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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

if you still hear more or unwanted parts,but it seems ok in your daw,
try the ''fix length'' tool for the parts you her wrong
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 5:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Sam,
You're right.
I checked Acc2 in my DAW Editor window and it shows data in bar 20, it's not showing in Arranger window.
I'll delete it and will test it today and report back.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgive me if I’m not getting this right, but am I to understand you want to play an Intro that uses a couple of audio loops, then it goes to a fill and then to the style?

If you always play in the same key, same tempo, and want the same fill, why not simply record the Intro up to the fill bar, record the fill, splice the two together, and set the Intro to simply play the whole audio file once?

This also adds the security of not having to worry about triggering the fill at the exact correct spot.

Or would you be using it on a variety of keys?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

But he already combined the two elements so he won’t have to worry about hitting the fill button, right?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korghelper wrote:
Forgive me if I’m not getting this right, but am I to understand you want to play an Intro that uses a couple of audio loops, then it goes to a fill and then to the style?

Yes that's correct and I play a guitar sound in INTRO in some parts of it.
That's why I put the Fill into the INTRO in DAW to avoid triggering the Fill button manually.

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If you always play in the same key, same tempo, and want the same fill, why not simply record the Intro up to the fill bar, record the fill, splice the two together, and set the Intro to simply play the whole audio file once?

This also adds the security of not having to worry about triggering the fill at the exact correct spot.

Or would you be using it on a variety of keys?

Do you mean to make a whole audio file that includes INTRO and FILL IN?
Could be a workaround, but never tried.
Actually I played it in other keys than the original keys and the audio files (INTRO) follow transposition too but it does not sound nice if transposed too much.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 17, 2020 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

@Sam,
I deleted the extra data of Acc2 from bar 19 to the end and imported into Pa4X, everything is playing correctly
but just when the FILL starts (bar 20) I hear the same unwanted sound (if we can call it like that).
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BR wrote:
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but just when the FILL starts (bar 20) I hear the same unwanted sound (if we can call it like that).



Which track(s)? Just ACC2 or more tracks? Mute ACC2 to see if you still hear anything that shouldn't be there when the fill starts.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2020 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BR wrote:
Korghelper wrote:
Forgive me if I’m not getting this right, but am I to understand you want to play an Intro that uses a couple of audio loops, then it goes to a fill and then to the style?

Yes that's correct and I play a guitar sound in INTRO in some parts of it.
That's why I put the Fill into the INTRO in DAW to avoid triggering the Fill button manually.

Quote:

If you always play in the same key, same tempo, and want the same fill, why not simply record the Intro up to the fill bar, record the fill, splice the two together, and set the Intro to simply play the whole audio file once?

This also adds the security of not having to worry about triggering the fill at the exact correct spot.

Or would you be using it on a variety of keys?

Do you mean to make a whole audio file that includes INTRO and FILL IN?
Could be a workaround, but never tried.
Actually I played it in other keys than the original keys and the audio files (INTRO) follow transposition too but it does not sound nice if transposed too much.


You could record it in a few keys (say 4 semitones, up, 4 semitones down) and that could give you a wider choice of keys where the transposition sounds acceptable...
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