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KORG EK-50 software / STY / PCG // Yamaha software / others

 
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MarekBujko



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PostPosted: Fri Sep 11, 2020 11:38 am    Post subject: KORG EK-50 software / STY / PCG // Yamaha software / others Reply with quote

My first month with my first KORG keyboard EK-50.

Korg software:
Style Works XT Universal - Style / Song to Style Converter, Style Editor
(Technics / Roland / Korg / Solton / Yamaha / Wersi / Generalmusic / Kawai)
http://www.emc-musicsoftware.com/Style-Works-XT/en
http://www.emc-musicsoftware.de/eng-shop/eng-dscstw.htm

KORG PA Manager (edit STY user banks)
https://www.korgpamanager.com

GNMIDFMT - MIDI format 0,1,2 converter for Windows
https://www.gnmidi.com/gnmidfmten.htm

Pa50SD/Pa80 Style to Midi
https://www.korg.com/us/support/download/software/0/312/2455/

Yamaha To PA80 Styles
http://www.korgforums.com/support/pa80/yamaha-to-pa80.zip

Korg Styles Sniffer
View the names of STY styles and size
http://www.oggettiinformatici.it/ricfreakprog/KSS20.htm

PAL Viewer
View the names of STY styles or PCG programs
https://archive.org/download/PalViewer/Pal%20Viewer.rar


KORG Styles and Programs (sounds/instruments):
KORG Bonusware (PA50/PA50SD/60/80/microArranger)
https://www.korg.com/us/features/arrangers/bonusware/

KORGForums Styles and Programs
http://www.korgforums.com/support/pa80.htm

Turkish site PiyanistSet:
https://www.piyanistset.com/korg-pa50-pa60-pa80/
Indian styles:
https://www.piyanistset.com/indian-styles-pa50-60-80/299/

My recommendation for styles and programs:
Styles
German styles (STYLE/USER01.STY, USER02.STY, USER03.STY):
http://www.korg.com/download/global/paseries/bonusware/Korg_De.zip

KORG EK-50 User Styles Vol.1 (USER01.STY, USER02.STY, USER03.STY rename to USER04.STY, USER05.STY, USER06.STY):
https://www.korg.sk/files/produkty/subory/EK-50_user_style_v1_20190617_221328.zip
(USER04.STY file in package not work)

Programs - sounds/instruments
128 programs Lagacy III / Legacy III (PROGRAM/USER01.PCG, USER02.PCG)
Created by the joint effort of Korg Triton/Karma owners and now converted to PA80 and PA60 format by S0C9
http://www.korgforums.com/support/pa80/legacy3set.zip

16 drum kits (PROGRAM/USERDK.PCG)
http://www.korgforums.com/support/pa80/rdrumsdata.zip


Manuals:
EK-50 Voice Name List
https://www.korg.com/us/support/download/manual/0/793/4090/

Firmware 2.9
https://www.korg.com/us/support/download/software/0/793/4118/

Owners Manual ENG
https://www.korg.com/us/support/download/manual/0/793/4084/
(24-25 MEDIA functions - Loading user styles and programs)


Recording stereo 1/4" output Korg EK-50 with Behringer Line 2 USB (44.1 kHz 16 bit):
MIDI Demos (70% volume on Win 10, volume on EK-50 as needed)
https://soundcloud.com/marek-bujko/sets/korg-ek-50-with-behringer-line-2-usb


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Yamaha software:
MIDI and Style File Checker
http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/software/midicheck/midichecksetup.exe

MIDI and Yamaha Style Player
http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/software/mandsplay/midiandstyleplayersetup.exe

Yamaha midi2style
http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/software/midi2style/midi2stylesetup.exe

Style Format 2 Converter
http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/software/sf2c/sf2csetup.exe


Yamaha Styles:
http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/stylesites.htm


Yamaha others:
Song Books PDF
https://usa.yamaha.com/products/contents/keyboards/downloads/content_data/index.html?l=en&c=keyboards&k=Song+Book

Yamaha Optional 70 MIDI songs with variable tempo
https://usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/8/1162718/psre463_ew410_songbook_midi.zip
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 10:24 am    Post subject: Re: KORG EK-50 software / STY / PCG // Yamaha software / oth Reply with quote

Soundfont Midi Player by Falcosoft:
You can play MIDI songs directly via USB MIDI on EK-50 keyboard.
http://falcosoft.hu/softwares.html#midiplayer

KORG USB MIDI driver:
https://www.korg.com/us/support/download/product/1/285/

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Tons of MIDI/MP3 songs:
https://psrtutorial.com/midi/midi_A.html
https://psrtutorial.com/song/mp3Index.html

Tons of Yamaha styles (many you can convert with Style Works XT):
https://www.psrtutorial.com/sty/index.html
https://www.psrtutorial.com/sty/gigDisks/index.html

Links for SongBooks:
http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/sheets.htm
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for these very useful tips. Now if only there was an affordable way to manage the style packages for our keyboard (Style Works is much too expensive, almost the price of the keyboard !). I bought the Styles package from PlanetKeyboard (11000+ styles for 40 euros), and so far I ahve spent 2 hours with Excel Macros trying to have a proper/ sortable table of the Style names ... but this is not really usable/useful.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes! -As has been requested before on this Forum we DO NEED an affordable piece of software to edit each of the 16 styles grouped together in USER01.../02/03 etc... PaManager would be like having 'a sledgehammer to crack a nut' for 99% of EK and i3 owners
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mitzie wrote:
Yes! -As has been requested before on this Forum we DO NEED an affordable piece of software to edit each of the 16 styles grouped together in USER01.../02/03 etc... PaManager would be like having 'a sledgehammer to crack a nut' for 99% of EK and i3 owners


and XE20/XE20 SP owners.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can move and delete styles from each set using free software provided in korg's website
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

edvas88 wrote:
You can move and delete styles from each set using free software provided in korg's website

You mean EMC Style User Bank Manager Demo on Korg Bonusware
http://www.korg.com/download/global/paseries/bonusware/KorgPaUserBankManagerDemo.zip

or

Yamaha To PA80 Styles
http://www.korgforums.com/support/pa80/yamaha-to-pa80.zip


EMC Style User Bank Manager Demo works with 1 User bank, but maybe works with more for transfer Styles.

Yamaha To PA80 Styles convert Yamaha Styles and creating bank is easiest, but still you don't know if the styles work until you load them into keyboard.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These are still not user friendly and doesn't enable editing of the USER01...02/03 etc... 16 style groups?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2020 6:12 pm    Post subject: Loading user styles Reply with quote

Well ....at last Peter, we are not 'home alone' !!!

Nice to see some comments at last on this issue we have been banging on about for a couple of years!

It's ok being able to load user styles IF you can find a decent set to actually load!

It beggars belief that one of the style houses have not yet put some dedicated sets together, especially now there are several models which could load them and not simply the EK50. I am sure they are missing a trick here.

I asked Korg support, but that was a waste of time ...
Surely like yamaha flog their expansion packs....I would happily pay for a dedicated set ...they could do several genres in 16's and maybe make as much profit as they do on the basic boards.

Problem is, I imagine, they don't want to damage sales on possible PA's and folk not up-grading.
The OS on these models is darn good....IMHO with a better sound chip it would be better than a PA.( well certainly from an ease of use point )

Keith
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 10:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just downloaded the demo for EMC Pa User Bank Manager and ... I am puzzled:

it looks like it would do the job (for 40 euros, it would be ok), especially since you can "play" each style directly. The interface is medieval, at best, but I can live with that and I guess one can learn after a while how to quickly create a 16-style set tuned as needed

but

there does not seem to be a way to rename the styles ! Am I condemned to names like "Pk28_8_16_bossa" when I would like to rename it "Bossa _ Insensatez" as an example ? One would think this is an easy feature to implement. Am I missing something here ?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 24, 2020 4:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your better I think with 'song styles' which are already named .

The demo version is ok but not ideal, you can only work on one set at a time and yes...it is aged, I also found it stunted and hard work to drag and drop so i gave up with it.
There is a new version now, but not available in the 'lite' version they did before which would have been great for what we need, but they are not prepared to do this as they said when I asked there would be no sales for it ......well, try it at least i thought!! I would buy it....

BTW...I found when loading, best way is to re-number a second set of 1/2/3 to become 4/5/6 ( so then you have the 6x16 sets ).

Keith

ps. if you want some song styles pm me.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi, I am a new prowd EK-50 owner. I am a totally beginner from player view
but I am a software developer so I tried some of the link in the first post.
Speaking about style set construction I found a software in the same
site of the 'Korg Styles Sniffer' that can load styles for the PA series and
can compose user style sets where it's possible to change the style name,
those sets can than be saved.
They can be reloaded and modified. I made some test and it seem to
work.
here the link: http://www.oggettiinformatici.it/ricfreakprog/PRM.htm
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 11:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

paolov wrote:
Hi, I am a new prowd EK-50 owner. I am a totally beginner from player view
but I am a software developer so I tried some of the link in the first post.
Speaking about style set construction I found a software in the same
site of the 'Korg Styles Sniffer' that can load styles for the PA series and
can compose user style sets where it's possible to change the style name,
those sets can than be saved.
They can be reloaded and modified. I made some test and it seem to
work.
here the link: http://www.oggettiinformatici.it/ricfreakprog/PRM.htm


Hello,
how you install and config this software?
I have problem on Win 10. Styles not import and few times I get Runtime Error 13.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 15, 2020 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I installed it with no problems on win 10, it's a little tricky but following
the author's instruction all went well.
Sometimes I get the same run-time error, but generally not on basic styles
function.
I plan to contact the author to see if I can get the sources (some of it's programs have sources),
maybe I can improove it
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