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[leonh]

So how many of you will buy this lees is more flagship workstation in wich case Kronos is flagship ultra

[ITguy54]

So, will this item work with the Nautilus as a replacement for the 9 sliders/drawbars that are on the Kronos? And the other controllers could be useful as well?

https://www.amazon.com/ammoon-EasyControl-9-Portable-Slim-Line-Controller/dp/B01DKQZFSC

[Koekepan]

[GregC]

I think Korg made a few mistakes with Nautilus.

Just the same, its not ' all about me and what I want ".

Its about whether this somewhat new w/s will be a good seller for Korg.

Thats the bigger picture.

And Todays opinions can change over time.
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[blazerunner]

Between Korg,Nord and AKAI is there some sort of agree these companies have made with drive manufacturers that they're required to put the tiniest drive possible inside their gear and offer you a bunch of Gigabyte heavy downloadable expansions so you run out of room?

I mean for goodness sake they offer some of the most expensive pieces of equipment but somehow throwing in a 500GB or 1TB of storage that costs a measly $50 - $100 bucks more is somehow out the question? I mean Nord is by far the worst. They don't eve give you an option to increase diddly. You have to buy whatever their latest keyboard is to get a larger drive and Korg sure don't make it easy to toss on a new drive. Like I want to pull out my screw driver and take a part a $3,000 keyboard...and for the love of goodness thanks Akai for making sure there's an empty drive space on the bottom of my MPC to remind me that YOU could have installed a drive from the factory yourselves but would rather I go out and buy one and do it.

Good grief man seriously what is with these tiny storage drives.

Here's a free idea for you Korg. Instead of making all these "Gold,Silver,Red, Black and whatever Special Editions that are really all the just the same thing how about you just make different editions with larger drives? Kronos 60gb, Kronos 250gb, Kronos 500gb and Kronos 2tb version.

Or if you're too cheap for that just put slots and an access door on the bottom of they Keyboard like you used to do on the Triton years ago so the user could easily expand it.

[GregC]

[Koekepan]

I'm prompted to idly wonder whether this attitude might not explain the decline of the keyboard workstation.

You see, DAWs on computers are a massive, censored censored in the censored. Being your own IT staff before you even get to lay down a single chord progression is horrible. Dealing with all the updates, add-ons, compatibility issues and everything that risks wrecking what you did in the past and preventing you from getting anything done when a deadline looms is unspeakably terrible.

But manufacturers of dedicated digital workstations (whether keyboards, or using pads like the MPC family, I'm not really distinguishing here) seem to miss a lot of the point of why the computers are such tempting alternatives. KORG loves to brag about the number of engines in the Kronos (and now, Nautilus) but any self-respecting DAW-twiddler has ten times as many plug-ins, half of which they forgot about six months ago. Akai Professional points at their huge multi-GB storage space, while DAW-twiddlers lean on their multi-terabyte storage arrays and yawn. And even an iPad Pro owner has a bigger screen than any dedicated workstation of why I'm aware. DA converters, too - you can buy breath-takingly, heart-stoppingly gorgeous DAs in the audio interface of your choice.

By any standard, the I-want-more crowd will always choose a computer, software and various hardware expansions because that's where you get more. The MPC range bids fair to offer a good chunk of that, with external storage, audio interface support and of course controller support as well.

The real promise has to be with magnificently smooth and reliable workflow. This is why no few composers still writer with a piano or guitar and staff paper. (Myself among them from time to time, truth be told.) It's about as low-friction, low-drama as you can get. I've given serious thought to even getting a microarranger just for banging out chord structures and pulling them together for compositions, before exporting a result as MIDI for later mangling elsewhere.

Perhaps what KORG should do is find a few top-flight UI designers and industrial psychologists, stick them in a cabin in central Alberta with a devoted composer for a year, and then have them design the slickest, lowest-friction composition and delivery environment in existence, and then produce that.

[GregC]

[Narioso]

[blazerunner]

[GregC]

[bpoodoo]

How good is good enough?

I'm talking about subjective sound quality, irrespective of the technical specs like sample memory, number of sound engines, flashy knobs, etc.

Are the new keyboards really that much better for simply playing and producing music? Sound creation and reproduction by synthesis, modeling, and sampling has for years reached a mature state - more than "good enough."

These new "prepared" and lost and "found" sounds seem more like scraping the bottom of the barrel to forcibly conjure up something new - extraneous additions to the core sounds already available.

I think of orchestra musicians who have used the same old hand-me-down instruments for decades. New is not always better. Old wine is often better than new wine. So why covet a NEW keyboard when you can still make good music with the OLD keyboards you've used for years that still work fine?

I've got an old discontinued keyboard, never to be upgraded again. But I'm okay with that. Features and flaws are both known quantities. No possibility of any future updates means no waiting for important bug fixes and no stressing over whether Dilbert company bosses will OK feature updates.

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[nitecrawler]

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