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jpires Senior Member
Joined: 30 Dec 2010 Posts: 276 Location: United States
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:23 pm Post subject: pa4x and bluetooth |
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Hello my fellow Korg friends.
I am not sure if this topic ever discuss it here, but here it is:
Did any body try to use blue tooth transmitter and receiver as a monitor trough headphone jack or any other way to play live?
I am thinking about it but I'm worry about latency, and not sure if it will work. It my be stupid but...
Please give your input.
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seaside Full Member
Joined: 07 Sep 2016 Posts: 120 Location: South Wales UK
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 4:59 pm Post subject: Bluetooth |
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I tried it ,ok for playing MP3s but definitely too much latency to play the keyboard-Terry |
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Snoopy Full Member
Joined: 05 Jul 2016 Posts: 225 Location: North-West Germany, Eastfrisia ;)
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Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:02 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
if you use aptx-low-latency bluetooth devices it´s more or less no problem ( 30 - 40 ms latency ).
But BOTH devices ( transmitter AND receiver ) have to work in aptx-ll-mode _________________ Greetings from East-Frisia, Germany
PA4X MUSIKANT, OS 3.1.0, PKG-Version |
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sdridentity
Joined: 12 Sep 2017 Posts: 24 Location: Canada
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Posted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 11:41 pm Post subject: |
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I concur with previous replies: Bluetooth latency is a significant issue. I found it unacceptable for playing. Even the ~40 ms of low latency standards.
Simon. _________________ Pa4X-76 (Int). Previously: Triton Pro, i5m, 01/W |
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Sam CA Platinum Member
Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 3990 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 4:20 am Post subject: |
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Anything above 9-12 ms is useless for real time performance. _________________ Sam
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pa4x_user Senior Member
Joined: 21 Sep 2016 Posts: 419 Location: Maroochydore Qld
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:18 am Post subject: |
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Hi all,
Wondering if there have been any technical developments since this was posted nearly 3 years ago. Would interest me if the latency issue has been resolved now,
Phil _________________ Korg Pa4X (OS NEXT 3.1.0)
Bose L1M2 speaker system
Yamaha BT midi interface
Songbook+ app for iPad
Cubase12 Pro DAW software
Dorico Elements 4.2 scoring software
Band-in-a-Box 2022
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redfox Full Member
Joined: 11 May 2009 Posts: 212 Location: Pistoia, Italy
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2021 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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A digital wireless audio system has minimal latency due to error checking, it is not usable for live performances. If you want to transmit audio wirelessly you have to use high quality analog systems, with virtually no latency.
https://www.thomann.de/gb/the_t.bone_iem_75.htm
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Korghelper Platinum Member
Joined: 26 Jul 2017 Posts: 584
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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I’m a little confused…
You are standing right next to your keyboard, playing it. Why do you need an unwired solution to hearing it? |
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pa4x_user Senior Member
Joined: 21 Sep 2016 Posts: 419 Location: Maroochydore Qld
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2021 9:34 pm Post subject: |
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Korghelper,
A good question.
It is because I play in a band and have recently discovered that I am slightly deaf in one ear. The hearing aid earpiece is Bluetooth connectable with good quality music reproduction. It would reduce the ambient sound, and allow a controllable feed from my Pa4X to that ear.
I could achieve the same thing with a wired earpiece, but then there is the annoying wire that gets in the way when you play. _________________ Korg Pa4X (OS NEXT 3.1.0)
Bose L1M2 speaker system
Yamaha BT midi interface
Songbook+ app for iPad
Cubase12 Pro DAW software
Dorico Elements 4.2 scoring software
Band-in-a-Box 2022
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Korghelper Platinum Member
Joined: 26 Jul 2017 Posts: 584
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:22 am Post subject: |
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Unless you are dancing away from the keyboard, a small headphone extension cord from the keyboard to your belt, and then run your in-ears down through your shirt to your belt keeps all wiring well away from your playing hands...
I have played for years like this in louder bands, never felt it interfered. You just have to remember to unhook the umbilical before you step away! |
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pa4x_user Senior Member
Joined: 21 Sep 2016 Posts: 419 Location: Maroochydore Qld
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 3:14 am Post subject: |
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Korghelper,
Thanks for the tip. _________________ Korg Pa4X (OS NEXT 3.1.0)
Bose L1M2 speaker system
Yamaha BT midi interface
Songbook+ app for iPad
Cubase12 Pro DAW software
Dorico Elements 4.2 scoring software
Band-in-a-Box 2022
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AntonySharmman Approved Merchant
Joined: 16 Oct 2010 Posts: 3598 Location: Hellas
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Posted: Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:00 pm Post subject: |
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Bluetooth is a packet protocol and whatever would be the latency in the future , it will be never suitable for real time audio transmission.
Wireless VHF/UHF FM/Digital or latest Spread Spectrum Modulation transmission systems will be always the one way option for realtime transmission
of audio & video for professional use.
High quality wireless audio transmission is always useful for gigging according to circumstances of stage demands ,
I sometimes send master outputs of my mixer this way to stage console due to avoid wiring traveling on stage ! _________________ Music Conductor - Sound Engineer & Developer - Automotive SMPS/RF R&D - Electronics Engineer
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Keyboards : Steinway-D, Kronos X, Pa5X 76, Pa4X 76, Montage M7 , Roland-XV88, Emu3,Emax II,Synclavier II,Yamaha DX Series, ΟΒ-8V |
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