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Top 50 Most Wanted Enhancements for Kronos
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 17, 2021 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a huge list of suggestions and desired improvements previously compiled here: http://www.korgforums.com/forum/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=61868&highlight=. It might be worth delving through that list to accumulate other ideas. I certainly still want some of my suggestions implemented (setlist advance mode from any page, click track features, ifx management, etc).

Honestly, though, I think Korg needs a radically different mindset if they're to compete against software-based synthesis in the top end. Competition between hardware and software vendors is common in most tech markets today, and usually the software companies end up trouncing hardware companies (think Google vs. ISPs, Microsoft vs. PC hardware companies, and TV production companies vs. cable TV providers). There are, however, three ways HW companies can win:

1. Build hardware that is specialized enough and/or new enough that it hasn't yet been commoditized and users aren't yet thinking about customization. This was true of early cell phones, standalone gps systems, TVs (prior to smart TVs), old fashioned stereo systems, and (yes) workstation keyboards. This situation rarely lasts, however; eventually the hardware becomes commoditized and users start asking for customization.

2. Hardware companies can convert themselves into platform owners of a curated, extensible walled garden where hardware features and software extensions are tightly integrated, making a better user experience than is possible with generic SW and off-the-shelf hardware. Users can often customize their experience themselves, but any sale of software extensions must both get the approval of the platform owner (to ensure consistent quality) and pay a % of revenue to the platform owner. This is the model used by Apple for iOS devices, and by gaming console HW companies (Ninetendo, Sony, and Microsoft Xbox).

3. HW companies without the scale to achieve (2) can foster a dedicated community of "makers" via open access who drive demand for the product based on customizability and extensibility. In this world, openness and freedom are the driving impetus. Think Arduino, Rasberry Pi, Occulus, Hololens, etc.

Korg has been living in world (1), and the new products they've released recently (such as analog-like synths and stage pianos) generally fall into this mold. If a Kronos successor were to continue in this route, they *must* focus on things that are only possible with dedicated hardware (this is basically the route Nord has taken). This means improved hardware features and build quality, including capacitance touch screen(s), an advanced control surface (infinite rotary controls, motorized faders, LCD labels driven by the selected combi/prog/mode) and/or dedicated hardware controls in the vein of analog synths or the Nord Stage, tight integration, and a holistic approach to UX.

Howver, I think they'd be better off trying to achieve something in the vein of (2) or (3) - for one, it's cheaper, and for two, the growth potential is greater. The key is for Korg to start thinking about Kronos as a platform rather than a device. The "open" part of the OASYS architecture should make this approach viable; the Kronos runs Linux, so much of the ecosystem is already in place. Granting access to the Kronos toolchain and the UI code for modification and redeployment would be revolutionary; imagine all the enhancements we could make to the Kronos just by changing how we interact with the existing engines? Imagine a git depot where Korg accepted user pull requests for new features and changes. I suspect more than half of the community's wish list could be achieved with just UI source access. 

Imagine further Korg also released an API for developing new sound engines on top of the proprietary building blocks used by the built-in engines. Crucially, Korg would still own the platform, so this openness wouldn't cut into their bottom line; you'd still need to buy a Kronos to run the software, but suddenly the community could extend the Kronos without limits. Particularly high quality extensions could be offered for sale - with Korg taking a cut of the profits, since it's their walled garden.

Once Korg starts thinking of Kronos as a platform, they're free to virtualize it, too - whether by releasing a Kronos VST or a competitor *to* VST hosts in the form of an extensible Kronos runtime. Annual HW upgrades to the Kronos become increasingly viable - instead of a new case color, new models could boast real hardware improvements to increase polyphony, sample size, # of effects, etc. Distributed synthesis becomes possible, too; imagine if a Kronos running a 10-program combi could recognize an attached PC running a virtualized Kronos instance, outsource synthesis for half (or more) of the individual progs to the PC, then mix the returned audio channels onboard the Kronos before routing it to the audio outputs? Imagine if VSTs by other vendors running on that PC could appear on your Kronos as another kind of prog to add to combis and setlists and be used transparently with the rest of the Kronos feature set?! This would flip the current model on its head. Instead of a dumb midi controller connected to a smart VST host, this architecture would put the keyboard back in control ...while still allowing augmentation via plugins running in powerful standalone boxes.

So, to restate, my top wishlist item is access to the Kronos tool chain and source code for the UI layer *at least*  - but also preferably an API that wraps the synthesis components so that new engines could be created. And I'd argue this is the *only* way for Korg to compete long-term against software solutions.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 24, 2021 4:26 am    Post subject: Post subject: Top 50 Most Wanted Enhancements for Kronos Reply with quote

The ability to save FAVORITES separately in the disk mode save function so they can easily be loaded into programs/combi AFTER CLEARING ALL OTHERE SOUNDS. Unless anyone can tell me an easy way of getting this done. Thanks. .
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2021 11:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

All of the above plus, a faster boot time. Would be cool to load everything (all engines and samples) under 1 minute, at least.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I’m new to the forum and a new user so I hope I’m not getting ahead of myself here.

I simple request that I’m surprised I haven’t see yet.

In the next update include the MonoPoly. Why not? It’s already written. They ported over the MS-20 and the Polysix they can easily port over the Monopoly as well in no time at all, the code is already written and ready to go. Users will be happy, it will make the Kronos more desirable, Korg will now be able to compete with Roland who are offering their vintage synths in their hardware now (I have a Jupiter X and it’s amazing), it’s a win/win for everyone involved.

This is their flagship synth, and with the inclusion of the MS-20 and Polysix already in there from the Korg v2 collection, logic dictates it should’ve already been in there as well in the first place to be honest.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Korg:

Please update the sequencer so time signatures can be longer than 16 beats. I want to be able to do 17/16 or 19/8, for example, without breaking a measure into two.

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear KORG Boss Guys:
What I want is A KRONOS RACK Very Happy
KRONOS 2 88, NANO, Roland A800, CUBASE 11
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

PatrickD wrote:
Dear KORG Boss Guys:
What I want is A KRONOS RACK Very Happy

yes, with a 9 inch touch screen like my iPad Wink

and under $500
Kronos 88. MODX8
Achieve your musical dreams Smile
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 11, 2021 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

YUP! Surprised
KRONOS 2 88, NANO, Roland A800, CUBASE 11
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2021 1:39 pm    Post subject: Flip Up or Physical Angle adjustment of Screen Reply with quote

My main gripe is I would like a flip-up or physical angle adjustment of the screen. When using the Kronos in a seated position I find I keep having to lean forward to get a good angle of view on the screen. If the screen could be physically lifted to work at a higher angle that would help.

Some good suggestions in the list below. The sequencer in particular could do with making it easier to use.

kronoskarma wrote:
I agree with the following:

1. Piano roll view/editor in sequencer

2. A proper mixdown function in SEQ that lets you mix down the whole song (or partial) to WAV, MP3, M4A, maybe OGG and other popular formats without going into sampling mode. Render direct from SEQ to USB drive in preferred format for easy sharing.

3. Nameable markers in SEQ with a way to jump to them

4. ASIO driver. More USB audio channels if it's possible

5. And my "stretch" wish is wavetable synthesis. I think this could possibly be added to HD-1, and I would think Korg could profitably sell sound packs based on it.

6. Rewrite the user interface to use a modern finger-friendly, iPad-like design.

7. x64 OS

8. More RAM

9. a grid-style pattern editor for creating drum patterns (a la the Krome)

I would add:

10. Add dual arp engine from the Krome/Nautilus in addition to Karma

11. HDMI out or some way to have a dual/larger screen

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