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[hans1966]

Hello Guys, next I invite you to watch these two short videos where two of the main engineers of the company, talk about the details of the Nautilus


I hope it is useful.


regards


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp6V_W9HR6A

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADiYat0wA2I
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Hans

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[meatballfulton]

Wow, the first video was really strange.

The speaker made it sound like Kronos is yesterday's news and that removing so many features is something that people had been clamoring for! I really liked his quick access button explanation about how removing all the direct access buttons was a great improvement.

Yes, I'm being snarky but it's weird marketing spin rather than just hammering on how they kept 100% of the Kronos sound engine (which is what matters most) and cut the price by 1/3, making it much more affordable to players who simply can't swing paying over $3000 for one.
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[bpoodoo]

Well I appreciate Korg's effort here to address the sense that corporate isn't listening to existing customers when it comes to new products. I see this as a retrospective rationalization of the decisions they made along the way and why, and to associate faces to the work that was done, to make it warm and personal not cold and corporate. It sort of accomplishes that.

And I have no problem with snarky. I embrace it!

And along those lines, I find the prolific use of Creator and Maker rather blasphemous, especially when these words are capitalized. Did these "Korg Creators" gather up a handful of dirt, breathe into it, and create a Nautilus? Why not call them instead what they are: e.g. designer, architect, engineer, writer, producer, or musician.

I know we can thank YouTube for this. Creator is the grandiose term they coined to use for someone who simply uploads videos. But the usage has become assimilated into the mainstream vernacular in the even more general sense to mean "someone who worked on or produced something that is used or disseminated by others." DoublePlusGood NewSpeak.
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[GregC]

It is standard Korg Inc marketing for a new expensive keyboard.

But its its not a new keyboard "product" from scratch.

It doesn't have that "wow " feeling, for example, like Kronos did.

The actual new features on Nautilus is not a long list. The $2699 price [88] also is a reflection to that. There is an effort to keep costs down.
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[hans1966]

The way I see it, Korg wants to follow the same strategy as Yamaha (Montage / MODX) with Kronos / Nautilus.

Still, the Nautilus is NOT a cheap keyboard, it is even more expensive than MODX, in any of the three version.
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[bpoodoo]

[burningbusch]

I'm not a fan of this Montage/MODX comparison. Two different companies with two different approaches.

The MODX is clearly an entry-level keyboard. The Nautilus is not. The Nautilus is mid-tier. Made in Japan, same high-end actions found in the Kronos, quality metal/aluminum construction, internal power, no polyphony compromise (FM engine on the MODX has half polyphony), and a full complement of I/O.

Also, the Montage and MODX are not 100% compatible. If you want to develop sample libraries that are compatible with both, this needs to be done on the Montage. Sample libraries created on the MODX are not compatible with the Montage.

Full compatibility at the program level is achieved when the samples (and engines) are identical, as they are on the Yamahas. Korg, THANKFULLY, did not follow that approach. The Kronos is 10 years old. Many of its samples came from the 16-year-old OASYS. Not that old samples are necessarily bad, it's that they were designed to fit into very limited amounts of RAM/ROM, and are less than what they could be as a result. They weren't created with the Kronos' fabulous disk-streaming in mind.

I would venture to say the Nautilus has more new samples than those shared with the Kronos. There are a TON of new samples. If you have two systems with large differences between the samples, they cannot be file-compatible in terms of sample-playback. The other engines, e.g. CX-3, MOD-7, AL-1, MS20, etc. should be largely compatible. You should be able to load a Kronos CX-3 program into the Nautilus and it will sound identical, except that the drums won't sound right and any KARMA will be lost. For many programs, that's not critical. Combis are another issue.

The MODX is a lesser version of the Montage, nothing more. The same cannot be said of the Nautilus.

Busch.
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[Jan1]

I wonder about something said in the first clip: at 0:15 the engineer speaks of ‘to succeed the Kronos engine’.
Does that mean Korg sees the Nautilus as the successor of the Kronos or does the engineer mean something else, or maybe it’s not translated correctly?

[GregC]

[hans1966]

So is it possible for Korg to possibly release a Kronos 3, or would we expect something totally different?
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[Liviou2004]

[Jan1]

[GregC]

[burningbusch]

[Liviou2004]