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Pa5X ID (Anyone up for a quick test)
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sharp wrote:
Out of the following 3 stages, how far does this go for you?

1: You launch the App and you see a Pa5X Splash Screen graphic for 2 seconds.
2: It then goes to a blue screen with two column called Midi In and Midi Out.
3: The columns should populate with the Pa5X ID, but you can try pressing the refresh button in the bottom left to force a scan.

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All of the above (but very small) excluding "pax5 ID"....press refresh the app closes... if I just wait after opening app then closes on its own accord after about 10 sec....
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Also underneath "midi in" and "midi Out" it flashes very quickly 2 white boxes on opening app... but if you blink you would miss them...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more question Smile
When you bought your Phone, Samsung nearly always throw one of these into the box. Did you get one by any chance?
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Type-Type-C-Adapter-Phones/dp/B07RPLK1FK/ref=sr_1_3?crid=24JUORURE38X9&keywords=samsung+OTG&qid=1658690920&sprefix=samsung+otg%2Caps%2C191&sr=8-3

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Long story short, my guess is that it’s the same as my KRONOS. The Pa5X will only allow the connection if the USB Port that has the words “DEVICE” written on it is used, and in order to connect your android device to a port like that, you need a normal computer USB cable with an OTG adaptor to convert the PC end of the cable into a compatible socket that fits your android device.

They are dirt cheap though. Samsung for a long time have included them in the boxes with new phones to allow people to connect two phones together to copy data from one to the other.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 7:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sharp wrote:
One more question Smile
When you bought your Phone, Samsung nearly always throw one of these into the box. Did you get one by any chance?
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Type-Type-C-Adapter-Phones/dp/B07RPLK1FK/ref=sr_1_3?crid=24JUORURE38X9&keywords=samsung+OTG&qid=1658690920&sprefix=samsung+otg%2Caps%2C191&sr=8-3

Kind regards
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Unfortunately not this time...
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D’oh... no worries.
Thanks for all your help. At least we have a 64bit and 32bit version now Smile

Just tried an OTG connection here on my KORG Wavestate, and Behringer Deepmind 12. Worked right away and sniffed out the ID.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sharp wrote:
The Pa5X will only allow the connection if the USB Port that has the words “DEVICE” written on it is used, and in order to connect your android device to a port like that, you need a normal computer USB cable with an OTG adaptor to convert the PC end of the cable into a compatible socket that fits your android device.


I should have any adapter needed to connect an iPad, if it's a simple code. Otherwise, I'll order a Fire Tablet for the future.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 7:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sharp wrote:
Long story short, my guess is that it’s the same as my KRONOS. The Pa5X will only allow the connection if the USB Port that has the words “DEVICE” written on it is used, and in order to connect your android device to a port like that, you need a normal computer USB cable with an OTG adaptor to convert the PC end of the cable into a compatible socket that fits your android device.

They are dirt cheap though. Samsung for a long time have included them in the boxes with new phones to allow people to connect two phones together to copy data from one to the other.


OK just ordered one... but hopefully someone will jump in before this arrives...

If not we can pick this up as soon as adapter arrives, possibly tomorrow...

Thanks for your efforts Sharp and hopefully one way or another we can get you the information you require Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

davekalbach wrote:
I should have any adapter needed to connect an iPad, if it's a simple code.



Not so simple thanks to Apple, but totally doable once this grows into something that can actual talk to the Pa5X. Right now it's just about geteting that ID I need. Once that's known, then I can target the Pa5X directly over midi and tap into everything it has to offer.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 8:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D575 wrote:

OK just ordered one... but hopefully someone will jump in before this arrives...

If not we can pick this up as soon as adapter arrives, possibly tomorrow...

Thanks for your efforts Sharp and hopefully one way or another we can get you the information you require Smile


lol... Good man... Thanks for that. Sounds Good

Thanks a million.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sharp wrote:
Not so simple thanks to Apple, but totally doable once this grows into something that can actual talk to the Pa5X. Right now it's just about geteting that ID I need. Once that's known, then I can target the Pa5X directly over midi and tap into everything it has to offer.


No worries, I just ordered a Fire Tablet just to use with this setup. Hopefully you'll get what you need working, and perhaps we'll be able to do more with the connection in the future
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

davekalbach wrote:
Sharp wrote:
Not so simple thanks to Apple, but totally doable once this grows into something that can actual talk to the Pa5X. Right now it's just about geteting that ID I need. Once that's known, then I can target the Pa5X directly over midi and tap into everything it has to offer.


No worries, I just ordered a Fire Tablet just to use with this setup. Hopefully you'll get what you need working, and perhaps we'll be able to do more with the connection in the future


Yes that would be great, I would then consider spending the money on a different foot controller apposed to FCB1010 for a smaller foot print as I have X4 Yamaha FC7 expression pedals side by side which I like and all have duties, so no room really for FCB1010 which I would only use as a test-bed at the moment....

Talking of all things midi and foot controller (sort of still on topic and on a lighter note) if you have not seen this before? take a look at Vangelis Custom Midi Rig and all those bloody foot controllers...

Fantastic and Amazing all at the same time https://youtu.be/3b1xJYCrKDU
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just updated the original link to point to a newer version.
The app now launches in Landscape mode and scales correctly to the size of the screen.

That should tie things over until the ID is known.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 24, 2022 11:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D575 wrote:

Fantastic and Amazing all at the same time https://youtu.be/3b1xJYCrKDU


Very Cool indeed!!
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 12:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sharp wrote:
Here’s a version that supports 32bit and 64bit CPU’s.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AotC-NqQdXiloSa6Cj8dbbhAn3Hf?e=NX9xJc

Thank a million.
Sharp.


Fire Tablet arrived today - I installed this apk. Did you get this to work at all? And ould I connect to the USB A. or USB B - or is either fine?
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