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davekalbach Senior Member
Joined: 19 May 2018 Posts: 343 Location: Reading, PA
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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2022 12:00 am Post subject: Microphone Input with Phantom Power |
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I am trying to utilize the Microphone Input.
My setup is a Shure SM7B with Cloudlifter (requires Phantom Power).
So far I have not been able to save this setting. I even tried saving the setup through My Setting. Every time I restart the keyboard I must re-select Phantom Power. Has anyone found a way to save this setting? I haven't found anything in the book to explain why this isn't working, and I can't imagine it was intended to require an adjustment to my setup each time I run it on.
-- UPDATE --
This setting is addressed by KORG in the performance manuals.
Page 567 on the new manual. I must have missed it, on my first read through.
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When disconnecting a microphone from the XLR jack, the phantom power is automatically turned off. Phantom power is also automatically turned off each time you turn the Pa5X off. _________________ Dave Kalbach
Music Newbie
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Kronos 2, Pa5X, Drumlogue, Stageman 80, Korg D32XD Recorder
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And a Kimball Baby Grand Piano
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davekalbach Senior Member
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 3:07 am Post subject: |
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Before I add this to the Bug List, can anyone think of a good reason the Mic Settings should not be retained with subsequent start ups?
Bug: Phantom Power selected for Mic Input - Is no longer selected after restart, with no option to Save Settings. _________________ Dave Kalbach
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Nemik Approved Merchant
Joined: 27 Jan 2014 Posts: 1726 Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 5:52 am Post subject: |
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I don't think is a bug, is same like in Pa4x.
I believe this is how been designed.
Quote: | When disconnecting a microphone from the XLR jack, the phantom power
is automatically turned off. Phantom power is also automatically turned off
each time you turn the Pa4X off |
_________________ Nemik
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musiccankill Platinum Member
Joined: 30 May 2010 Posts: 884 Location: Greece
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 10:21 am Post subject: |
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davekalbach wrote: | Before I add this to the Bug List, can anyone think of a good reason the Mic Settings should not be retained with subsequent start ups?
Bug: Phantom Power selected for Mic Input - Is no longer selected after restart, with no option to Save Settings. |
It is not a bug , it is like that for safety i believe..You may forget it is on and connect something that doesn't need phantom power and fry either the keyboard or the connected device...
So it is better to always be off on startup so you know that as a fact. _________________ ~~~The best keyboard for any player is the one that fits his/her needs!~~~
Korg keyboards owned now: PA5X 61 ,PA300, Triton extreme 61, Korg 707, Trinity plus |
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davekalbach Senior Member
Joined: 19 May 2018 Posts: 343 Location: Reading, PA
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2022 12:20 pm Post subject: |
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Thank you both for the feedback.
I thought that may have been a possibility - so I hadn't posted as a bug as of yet. For my use, I'm simply in a home studio where my environment and connections do not change, so I'd like to be able to save the settings.
I can however live with it as it is. This may make me re-think my mic setup however.
Anyone have a good recommendation for a good microphone with a small cardio pattern to avoid feedback in a small space, close to (in front of) 2 two monitor speakers? _________________ Dave Kalbach
Music Newbie
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Kronos 2, Pa5X, Drumlogue, Stageman 80, Korg D32XD Recorder
Many Guitars, Roland TD-6 V-Drums, a Trumpet (HELP)
And a Kimball Baby Grand Piano |
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Nemik Approved Merchant
Joined: 27 Jan 2014 Posts: 1726 Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 2:49 am Post subject: |
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davekalbach wrote: |
Anyone have a good recommendation for a good microphone with a small cardio pattern to avoid feedback in a small space, close to (in front of) 2 two monitor speakers? |
Just use common sense, microphone has always feedback.
when you recording voice, instead speakers use noise cancellation headphone.
Is nothing new, is a reason audio recording studio is separate from band.
Please don't tell me you don't know. _________________ Nemik
Korg Kronos2-61, Korg Pa600, Novation UltraNova, Akai Professional MPK49, Akai Professional MPK225 , Alesis QX-49, APC25 Keys, Launchpad MK2, Korg nanoPad2
MOTU Midi Express XT, FCB1010 with UnO, Behringer X2222 USB, TASCAM Model 24 Mixer, Presonus AudioBox96, M-Track Plus
Fl Studio 21, Ableton Live 10 Suite.
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davekalbach Senior Member
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 4:03 am Post subject: |
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Nemik wrote: | Please don't tell me you don't know. |
LOL - For making a "real" recording yes - I have headphones to use. But for just messing around - I like to use the monitors and the mic together, more fun for family and friends - but now I have to watch levels to avoid feedback.
Was thinking there might be a tighter Cardiod Pattern that would help. Autopitch isn't working with my setup either, I may try a different mic tomorrow to confirm Phantom Power is causing the issues. _________________ Dave Kalbach
Music Newbie
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Kronos 2, Pa5X, Drumlogue, Stageman 80, Korg D32XD Recorder
Many Guitars, Roland TD-6 V-Drums, a Trumpet (HELP)
And a Kimball Baby Grand Piano |
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voip Platinum Member
Joined: 27 Nov 2014 Posts: 3777
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Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2022 8:43 pm Post subject: |
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The simplest way to reduce feedback is to increase the distance between the microphone and speakers. A microphone "feedback eliminator" can reduce the feedback problem with microphones. There are various ways that they do this, such as introducing a tunable notch filter, or by frequency shifting the microphone signal. Feedback eliminators will all affect the sound to some extent. An alternative might be a multi output headphone amplfier, such as an ART HeadAmp4, where family members/friends can individually set their own headphone volume to comfortable levels.
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davekalbach Senior Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 2:10 am Post subject: |
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voip wrote: | The simplest way to reduce feedback is to increase the distance between the microphone and speakers. A microphone "feedback eliminator" can reduce the feedback problem with microphones. |
Just no room where I am setup to create any more distance between the mic and speakers.
The Feedback Eliminator is interesting. I assume this works by isolating the feedback frequency range and then removing it from the output signal... _________________ Dave Kalbach
Music Newbie
Bear with Me
Kronos 2, Pa5X, Drumlogue, Stageman 80, Korg D32XD Recorder
Many Guitars, Roland TD-6 V-Drums, a Trumpet (HELP)
And a Kimball Baby Grand Piano |
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voip Platinum Member
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2022 9:56 am Post subject: |
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davekalbach wrote: | The Feedback Eliminator is interesting. I assume this works by isolating the feedback frequency range and then removing it from the output signal... |
That is indeed the case for the notch type feedback eliminator. The frequency shifter type of feedback eliminator alters the frequency of the audio entering the device by a small amount (typically a few Hz) before passing it to the output. The frequency shifter is better for speech than singing because the voice can sound a bit off key in critical applications.
This might be useful:
https://sonoboom.com/best-feedback-eliminator/
It might also be worth experimenting with the Pa5x's microphone Gate feature, which blocks microphone input below a certain level.
If the Shift Audio mic processor in the Pa5x is firmware upgradeable, then there's a chance that a notch type feedback eliminator could be introduced in the future.
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