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BlackForest Full Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2020 Posts: 210 Location: German, Black Forest
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Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2023 6:14 am Post subject: Montage - new model in October, where's KORG?? |
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Would be something if Korg for a change would announce new models in advance..
https://www.yamahasynth.com/learn/montage/montage-sayonara _________________ Kronos 2-88 & X73, Kurzweil MicroPiano, Spitfire Albion V Tundra, BBCO Core, Nylon Guitar Ilya Efimov, Xtant Audio Uilleann Pipes - in use
Korg DS-8, Roland D-10, M1Rex, Wavestation, Korg SP-280, JV2080, Wavestate, Kronos LS - all RIP |
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ITguy54 Full Member
Joined: 22 Mar 2015 Posts: 248
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:10 pm Post subject: |
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Where’s Korg? Working on adding aftertouch to keyboards that should have had it in the first place. |
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KK Platinum Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2016 Posts: 1423
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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The AT "upgrade" is ready, now they might be working on adding 9 sliders and a numeric keypad to the Nautilus. |
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ITguy54 Full Member
Joined: 22 Mar 2015 Posts: 248
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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KK wrote: | The AT "upgrade" is ready, now they might be working on adding 9 sliders and a numeric keypad to the Nautilus. |
If Korg did that and kept the price low, it was sell a lot. And I would be one of the purchasers. |
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KK Platinum Member
Joined: 13 Oct 2016 Posts: 1423
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:01 pm Post subject: |
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Official Yamaha words :
Today we are discontinuing the MONTAGE music synthesizer. As much as we would have liked to, we cannot develop the current MONTAGE any further. And one more thing…the next generation MONTAGE synthesizer is coming in October.
OK, so they cannot develop the thing further anymore. But they will release a new one with the same name in a few months. It strangely sounds like the Nautilus after the Kronos. New model, without new development.
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bpoodoo Senior Member
Joined: 27 Dec 2019 Posts: 429 Location: Ding Dong, TX
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Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:44 pm Post subject: |
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KK wrote: | Official Yamaha words :
...As much as we would have liked to, we cannot develop the current MONTAGE any further...
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My guess is not enough sales of the current Montage requires a new Montage model, and the Yamaholics will line up for it, whatever it is. More memory, faster CPU, additional sound engine(s)? Or maybe just a bigger, brighter, flashier Superduperknob. Montage+ perhaps? _________________ bpoodoo
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BlackForest Full Member
Joined: 11 Aug 2020 Posts: 210 Location: German, Black Forest
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 4:48 am Post subject: |
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Well, at least they are communicating "something" about new workstations.. And ahead of their releases. Korg seems quite different!? _________________ Kronos 2-88 & X73, Kurzweil MicroPiano, Spitfire Albion V Tundra, BBCO Core, Nylon Guitar Ilya Efimov, Xtant Audio Uilleann Pipes - in use
Korg DS-8, Roland D-10, M1Rex, Wavestation, Korg SP-280, JV2080, Wavestate, Kronos LS - all RIP |
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ITguy54 Full Member
Joined: 22 Mar 2015 Posts: 248
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Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2023 3:49 pm Post subject: |
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KK wrote: | Official Yamaha words :
Today we are discontinuing the MONTAGE music synthesizer. As much as we would have liked to, we cannot develop the current MONTAGE any further. And one more thing…the next generation MONTAGE synthesizer is coming in October.
OK, so they cannot develop the thing further anymore. But they will release a new one with the same name in a few months. It strangely sounds like the Nautilus after the Kronos. New model, without new development.
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Obviously something will be new. |
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Derek Cook Approved Merchant
Joined: 20 Jul 2014 Posts: 1279 Location: Wales, UK
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Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2023 8:45 am Post subject: |
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I am one who actually remains pleased that my 2014 Kronos X61 and 2017 Montage 7 remain the flagships and I aint getting GAS!
I also buy synths for the long term and there is no way I have exhausted what either of them can give me. AL-1 still continues to amaze me when I dig into it.
I think we can all agree the Nautilus was a step backwards. No aftertouch, reduced control surface and the lack of Karma were deal breakers for me.
A revamped Kronos that also included Wavestate and MODWave would get me going.
Will be interesting to see that Yamaha do come out with. As I have a live rig that is based around my Montage and Kronos along with a small NUC PUC that runs Cantabile Software and any VST I care to throw at it (and I can also add my "fun" synths if I wish, Hydrasynth, Summit and Prophet X) then whatever Yamaha do (and Korg for that matter) is going to have to be special and ideally backwards compatible.
I was seriously impressed with Yamaha's backwards compatibility in the Montage all the way back to the Motif ES. I loaded sounds from my 2005 Motif Rack ES into my Montage and I cannot tell the difference when I A/B them, so I hope any new Montage is fully compatible with the old one.
But then if it goes backwards like the Nautilus did, then I have no interest. If it goes forward and remains compatible, that may pique my GAS!
So what features would have me reaching for my cheque book?
- The fabled AN-X (registered as a trademark a few years back) - my AN1x remains one of my favourite VAs
- Finish the FM-X job and add in the bits of the FS1r that they left behind!
- Expand FM-X to include the SY series AFM features
- Bring back VL synthesis - still sounds awesome in my EX5R
- CS80 emulation - a possibility in AN-X- although the Montage does make some nice CS80esque sounds in AWM2
- Fix the "stupid quirks around Live Set Selection (cannot select one via MIDI) and Part receive MIDI channel
_________________ Derek Cook - Java Developer
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blazerunner Senior Member
Joined: 15 Nov 2017 Posts: 277
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Posted: Sun Jul 23, 2023 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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Think Korg forgot about us.
That's cool Yamaha is making something new. I get kind of excited for new workstations even if I don't plan on buying them. At least that tells me Workstations are progressing forward still. I hope these manufacturers still understand not all of us want to make music with a mouse and keyboard. _________________ I make all the mistakes for you so that you can learn what not to do. |
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ITguy54 Full Member
Joined: 22 Mar 2015 Posts: 248
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Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2023 4:35 am Post subject: |
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But will the new Montage have Poly AT, MPE and MIDI 2.0? |
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Jan1 Platinum Member
Joined: 16 Mar 2005 Posts: 765
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Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:25 pm Post subject: |
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I wouldn’t get my hopes up too high for the new Montage, it probably is no more than an evolutionary step forward (new engine added, more storage, more presets). I’m guessing the sequencer will not be upgraded.
For Korg the move to 64-bit and seriously upgraded hardware alone would be an important step forward.
Also, I’d love to see bigger adjustable screens, maybe even include a monitor output? My eyes aren’t what they used to be.
I also wonder if perhaps Native Instruments will enter the workstation market with a Kontrol+. Akai did this already with the MPC Key. |
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