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blueroads
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 Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 7:24 pm Post subject: Resetting the KRONOS CLOCK |
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Dear friends from the forum,
I've learned so much here through the years! Thank you!
My faithful KronosX61 just gave me the "Clock Battery Voltage is low" message.
I will take the keyboard to have the battery replaced ASAP.
I also wanted to check on the Internal Clock date in the Global Settings pages and maybe reset the date if necessary, but I could not find exactly where to do it.
Thank you for your help,
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Sweat
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| Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 3:12 am Post subject: |
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| ...Disk mode, Utility menu, Set Date/Time |
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Pedja
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| Posted: Sun Mar 31, 2024 2:56 am Post subject: |
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I have to say that I didn't find main answer: How long I can wait to change a battery? On PC machine you can wait for years. Only what I have to do is to set correct year, month and day before starting machine (booting).
But, on Kronos you get info of low battery state in the and of booting.
Does it change anything (in relation with system files), logically no, that change only incorrect date and time of future creative files, they will have incorrect date and time if you didn't set it correct manually.
In the end, the question arises why it is so necessary to replace the battery, and if it has to be done, how long after the first announcement that the battery has low energy. I hope someone will give me a correct answer. Thank you for your patience.
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Pedja
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Xenophile
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| Pedja wrote: | | Strange, that nobody has answer to my questions. |
I don't think it is so strange. No one wants to limp along for years to see if anything bad happens, when it is so simple and inexpensive to just replace the battery. I might speculate that you could experience problems with licensing of purchased expansion packs. Maybe data loss or boot failure due to system software bugs being exposed by unexpected inconsistencies in time/date stamps on system files?
Just change the battery and be done with it, instead of waiting around to see what problems manifest themselves.
In general, those coin cells are expected to last about 5 years... But I've had PCs running for over 10 years that have never complained about the battery being low. |
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KK
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It's like instead of changing your car battery because it's dead, you ask someone to jump start you every time. Doesn't make any sense.
Here are other lovely things that might end up happening in your Kronos :
- The dead battery might leak its very corrosive contents and destroy nearby components.
- The dead battery might end up like a short circuit. You don't want to know what it can do.
- The BIOS will reset itself to the default values. In the case of a Kronos, good luck to set all the parameters back to the needed values.
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Pedja
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Thank you very much @Xenophile and @KK for suggestions.
Picture (from @KK) shows completely disintegrated battery. I have opened many PCs in my life, I have never seen a battery in this condition. It looks like colon cancer.
I'm not saying it's impossible, but it should be a very rare case.
I have a question related to battery replacement. If it also serves to save the data set in the BIOS, when the battery is removed, there is no more battery power, and the settings are lost. With PC, it sets to the default state. What happens with Kronos?
I have never seen on the forum that someone mentioned the data that is set in the BIOS, and I don't know how to enter the Kronos BIOS?
I heard on one video (from someone who change battery), about replacing the battery, that the battery must be replaced within one minute, from the moment of removing the old one (so as not to lose the settings in the BIOS).
Is that right?
Thank you for taking the time to read all my battery dilemmas.
Best regards.
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Xenophile
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I don't think you'll have to change anything other than date and time. Maybe time zone?
The cases KK suggested are extreme, and I've never seen anything like that happen either. But then, I change batteries when they're low. And you did ask "What could happen if..."
Changing the battery is a simple, inexpensive task. Just do it! |
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Xenophile
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This is how you set it in Kronos BIOS.
| Sweat wrote: | | ...Disk mode, Utility menu, Set Date/Time |
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Xenophile
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After you change the battery, and BIOS settings are lost, it may take a few extra seconds to boot the first time while BIOS automatically checks how much memory you have, which disk drives are connected, etc.
I would be more concerned about OS files getting corrupted by programming bugs that didn't account for date/time-stamp irregularities. Then you might have to re-install the OS to get it working again. |
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Pedja
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| Posted: Tue Apr 09, 2024 12:14 am Post subject: |
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| Xenophile wrote: | This is how you set it in Kronos BIOS.
| Sweat wrote: | | ...Disk mode, Utility menu, Set Date/Time |
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Thank you very much, for explanation.
I know how to set date and time, but this is not my problem.
But that's not the only data that's in the BIOS.
I'm specifically concerned about the other data in the BIOS, and what are they?
I already had a problem with the date and time. Kronos set the date to 2009 (because of low battery), I didn't pay attention to the month and time. If it causes the system to crash, then it is an disastrous OS bug..
On PC machines, this does not cause the OS to crash.
I had a notebook whose battery was dead for years (I did not change the battery because it was soldered), the BIOS was with default settings, the only thing I had to do, was set the correct year, month and day. However, this had to be done, directly in the BIOS, to allow Windows to boot correctly.
I never ever had a problems with system files, and OS reinstalling.
With Kronos, I get a low battery warning and a recommendation to enter the correct date and time manually when the OS is fully booted. It is not clear to me, how the incorrect year and date, can damage system files, and prevented OS from booting?
If every battery change, incorrect date causes the OS to crash, then it's a very bad OS.
Thank you very much for your advices.
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Pedja
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Kronos X73, Kurzweil PC3LE8, ASM Hydrasynth, Arturia Keylab mk2 61, AKAI MPC Key 61
My music: https://soundcloud.com/pedjak-1
_______________________________________
My CG Galleries:
http://www.museumofcomputerart.com/autogallery2013/autogallery_kalajdzijevic/
http://moca.virtual.museum/autogallery2015/autogallery_kalajdzijevic/
http://moca.virtual.museum/autogallery2017/autogallery_kalajdzijevic/
http://moca.virtual.museum/dablog/dablog02.htm
http://moca.virtual.museum/autogallery2019/autogallery_kalajdzijevic/
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Xenophile
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| Posted: Wed Apr 10, 2024 6:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Pedja wrote: | | Xenophile wrote: | This is how you set it in Kronos BIOS.
| Sweat wrote: | | ...Disk mode, Utility menu, Set Date/Time |
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But that's not the only data that's in the BIOS.
I'm specifically concerned about the other data in the BIOS, and what are they?
I already had a problem with the date and time. Kronos set the date to 2009 (because of low battery), I didn't pay attention to the month and time. If it causes the system to crash, then it is an disastrous OS bug..
On PC machines, this does not cause the OS to crash.
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If every battery change, incorrect date causes the OS to crash, then it's a very bad OS. |
The only setting you have control over are the date and time.
You are repeatedly asking the same theoretical questions, presumably because you are either too lazy, afraid or simply not competent to change the battery.
I'm not saying that it WOULD cause the OS to crash, but it is a possibility. Programmers don't always "idiot-proof" every bit of their code. Timestamps are sometimes used for security/encryption purposes. If they get messed up, you could conceivably end up with an encrypted file that can't be decrypted, resulting in a no-boot situation.
Quit asking "what if" questions and just change the battery already! |
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