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Bescki · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 12:15 am Post subject: KORG YOU ARE TOO LATE

We want stable versionnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
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D575 · Posted: Wed Dec 20, 2023 5:58 am Post subject: Re: KORG YOU ARE TOO LATE

worth · Platinum Member Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1101

I said that group legal action should have been considered 2 years ago . The long time period since then does not work in your favour as you have accepted the product with its shortfalls or for many , knew about the shortfalls and purchased it anyway .

You’re gonna just have to live with a bad purchasing decision I’m afraid . The time has passed for getting your money back or compensation for most of you .

It’s a hard lesson to learn but hopefully one you’ll never forget.

pa4x_user · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:26 am Post subject:

Worth,

Not sure that I would agree with you. In a court case, what would matter are the claims made by the manufacturer. I think. 🤔
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worth · Platinum Member Joined: 27 Sep 2005 Posts: 1101

[quote="pa4x_user"]Worth,

Not sure that I would agree with you. In a court case, what would matter are the claims made by the manufacturer. I think. 🤔[/quote]

No worries at all my brother . Disagreement is good when all we want to do is explore solutions .

I am no expert on this . But I think the problem will be that the owners of these instruments were aware of the claims of the manufacturer, despite the evidence that those claims were not being honoured at all or at best ,in a timely predictable manner .

Despite this, they continued to keep the instrument and use the instrument when they had the right to return it, as soon as they were aware of its deficiencies.

They should have returned it in a reasonable time period when they realised it was unfit for its purpose and breached the manufacturers description.

Instead, they held the instruments and continued to use it in the mistaken belief that the manufacturer would produce a fix as it had in the past in the
hope that it would make good on their promises at some point in the future again .

And this is the problem.

At some point in the future ,continues to this day and beyond. Trying to secure a remedy or compensation for a solution that may still come by the hand of the manufacturer, as remotely as that now seems , is going to be difficult to secure in any civil case .

Secondly the owners of these instruments kept them and used them thereby obtaining some utility or benefit from the instrument “ as is” despite its short comings .

What is reasonable now given the passage of time and the fact that the instruments are now well and truly used goods ?

I wish anyone that wants to pursue this matter, legally to consider their costs, the risks, and the potential benefits. I am not a lawyer, although I have had some legal training . The laws around consumer protection are not as straight forward as folks think they are .

Anyway what do I know 😂

Good luck .

kbrkr · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:18 pm Post subject: Re: KORG YOU ARE TOO LATE

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nitecrawler · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 5:42 pm Post subject:

No drama here as well Cool

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Gunnar J · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 8:23 pm Post subject:

Hi.
I am far from being characterized as a 'power user', for that I am too new to using Pa5X. But in my own eyes, it has had a bit of a run since it came into the house.
Have had an error where the keyboard switched itself off and on again, and that was when trying to convert a large file with older Korg files.
It went into the trash, and later I learned that the same thing happened to a Pa4X user who tried to load some of the files.
So my conclusion so far is that the error I experienced was a user error, and that neither Korg nor Pa5X can be blamed this time.
The Pa5X-76 is a fantastic instrument. 👍🎶😊
It may well be that the Musikant version would suit me better than the International version. But that choice cannot be blamed on anyone but myself.

Happy Holidays everybody! 🎅🎄🎶
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pax-eterna.1 · Senior Member Joined: 03 May 2017 Posts: 393

Xx_Joey_xX · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 10:06 pm Post subject:

If you use this keyboard outta the box and use factory styles and sounds.
You're fine!

If you're an advanced user where all you use is USER styles, sound, samples, use step recording need to assign specific things in certain locations than this keyboard is not ready.

The KORG PA4X had all these tools for advanced users. People like me who use external sound modules don't buy a PA5X because of the sounds. I bought it because of the extra outputs, sample memory and number of user sound samples and mainly use it as a midi controller!

I need the tools to create my own styles easily. Just like the 4x, 3x, 2x, pa800, i30. They removed things that made USER work easier! such as A DELETE button, or the REDO UNDO function. PLAIN F%#king stupid.
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Asena · Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 11:15 pm Post subject:

Problems Appears when you dig in to it!
If you try to create Styles, Its very unstable IF you like to change from 4/4 to 6/8 or so.
Also SAMPLE editing can be painfull

And if you edit the FX section it,s acting like my Granma, But even if its like this, When and IF you can make a new sound, You say WOOOW!

Sounds really cool.

I hope KORG can save this KB,s Past, and make it for the future.
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chelsea4023 · Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 12:39 am Post subject:

Hi,
I am just a basic player who has owned six Korg arrangers (as well as two Yamaha arrangers also) and wanted to ask pax-eterna.1 a question.

Am I being a 'drama queen' just because I would like to enjoy the quick record feature ?

I actually don't consider this to be a feature exclusive to advanced in depth players, in fact I would say it's the opposite, designed for the more basic players.

We seem to have a few Forum Members on here that like to throw insults at others. I've already had to PM one Forum Member for his insulting behaviour (who should know better) but continues to talk down to other Forum Members in his arrogant and condescending manner.

Finally,regarding the O/S, I don't recall this many unsorted issues on previous Korg arrangers I have owned and I certainly never had any issues on either of the two Tyros arrangers I owned so why now ? I also own a Korg Nautilus 88 and that works perfectly for me.
Chris

Asena · Posted: Fri Dec 22, 2023 2:27 am Post subject: