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Kaneda
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 5:44 pm Post subject: Trigger sounds via Kross editor plugin on other keyboard ? |
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If you use the Kross editor plugin in a DAW (with the Kross 2 connected to the computer, of course), can you trigger those sounds with another keyboard, like a MIDI controller ? _________________ Kawai CA58
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voip Platinum Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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If by "those sounds" you mean the Kross's sounds, then no. The Kross Editor can be used to edit the Kross' Programs and Combis, and to play those sounds via the editor's on-screen keyboard, but it has no mechanism to route USB MIDI from another keyboard. The easiest way to play the Kross' sounds from another controller, would be to connect the DIN MIDI In port on the back of the Kross to the DIN MIDI Out port on the other keyboard, if it has physical DIN connector ports. If not, then you could try using software like MIDI Patchbay to connect the USB MIDI from keyboard or controller, to the Kross' USB MIDI port. MIDI Patchbay is free, I think, whilst MIDI Patchbay Extended is a paid-for software.
https://soundigy.com/midipatchbay.php
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Kaneda
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:08 pm Post subject: |
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voip wrote: | If by "those sounds" you mean the Kross's sounds, then no. The Kross Editor can be used to edit the Kross' Programs and Combis, and to play those sounds via the editor's on-screen keyboard, but it has no mechanism to route USB MIDI from another keyboard. The easiest way to play the Kross' sounds from another controller, would be to connect the DIN MIDI In port on the back of the Kross to the DIN MIDI Out port on the other keyboard, if it has physical DIN connector ports. If not, then you could try using software like MIDI Patchbay to connect the USB MIDI from keyboard or controller, to the Kross' USB MIDI port. MIDI Patchbay is free, I think, whilst MIDI Patchbay Extended is a paid-for software.
https://soundigy.com/midipatchbay.php
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Well, it puzzles me then why Korg would release the Kross editor as a VST pluging. What's the use of it then ? _________________ Kawai CA58
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Kaneda
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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voip wrote: | If by "those sounds" you mean the Kross's sounds, then no. The Kross Editor can be used to edit the Kross' Programs and Combis, and to play those sounds via the editor's on-screen keyboard, but it has no mechanism to route USB MIDI from another keyboard. The easiest way to play the Kross' sounds from another controller, would be to connect the DIN MIDI In port on the back of the Kross to the DIN MIDI Out port on the other keyboard, if it has physical DIN connector ports. If not, then you could try using software like MIDI Patchbay to connect the USB MIDI from keyboard or controller, to the Kross' USB MIDI port. MIDI Patchbay is free, I think, whilst MIDI Patchbay Extended is a paid-for software.
https://soundigy.com/midipatchbay.php
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Well, it puzzles me then why Korg would release the Kross editor as a VST plugin. What's the use of it then ? _________________ Kawai CA58
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voip Platinum Member
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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The editor comes in two flavours, the VST plugin and a standalone version. The VST plugin alows people to work from within a VST host environment, which some prefer to do. There is no tone generator functionality in the editor. The same is true for the editors for other keyboards e.g. the Kronos, and the M50, both of which exist in VST versions. The editor makes editing Programs and Combis easier, since there's more screen real estate.
On the other hand, the Korg Collection (and the Legacy Collection before it) is a series of VST plugins that do have tone generator functionality, so can be played in the VST environment, and triggered by external keyboards and controllers. The Kross doesn't feature in the collection yet, the most recent instrument being the Triton Extreme.
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Kaneda
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Posted: Thu Mar 07, 2024 10:34 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks for the explanation ! _________________ Kawai CA58
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OpAmp Platinum Member
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Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 6:55 pm Post subject: |
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Hi,
Coming back on the initial question. The answer according to me is YES!
As void explains, the Kross Editor comes in two flavours, standalone and VST plugin.
The VST plugin is exactly the same as the standalone version, except that you can bring it up in your DAW and use it as a instrument track and edit from there also the programs or combis.
As said, the VST plugin is not a tone generator. So in order to have it working properly the Kross needs to be connected to your PC. Notes on a track assigned with the Kross Editor VST will be forwarded by the VST to the Kross using MIDI. The latter will make the actual sound. To get the sound back in your DAW, connect the audio L/R outputs of the Kross to your audio interface inputs which need to be mapped in your DAW.
Now as soon as the VST plugin is assigned to a track, you can trigger notes on that track using whatever other note input device, like another USB MIDI controller and hence via the VST plugin, trigger the Kross.
So the combination other MIDI controller -> DAW -> VST Kross Editor plugin -> Kross works like a kind of patchbay.
Have fun. _________________ microKORGXL, Kaossilator Pro, monotribe, SQ-1, volca fm, Kross 88 BK
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Kaneda
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Posted: Sat Mar 09, 2024 3:58 pm Post subject: |
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I thought so as well that it was possible as long as the kross 2 is turned on and connected to the computer.
However, I’m now considering buying the Korg Collection 4 instead. I believe this will offer me more in the long run… _________________ Kawai CA58
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