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runningman67 · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:40 pm Post subject:

Same combi.
Sorry chuck, not intentional. Are you ok with me keeping it on?
I guess we were both in a similar state of mind.

PianoManChuck · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:55 pm Post subject:

Hedegaard · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:52 pm Post subject:

"Keeps you all unique"?
By using the same combination as each other?
Jeeze! Shocked

Anyway,runningman67, I laughed at your lighthearted attitude and great sense of humour! Thanks for your song. Its still not Top 100 at all, which you quite rightly guessed.

About Top100:

Yes, just something like a weekly Top 100. It dosen't matter if your ficticious song stays for 1 week or 40 weeks at Top 100, just so long as it qualifies for such a position.

There are many artists out there, even in this day and age, who produce quite some good sounding songs.
So why don't we have any good artists in these forums?

Surely you can't all not-like ANY Top100 song over the last 10 years?

I'm speaking about songs that are nice to listen to, something that you use time to bother to even copy onto your MP3 player or burn onto CD for your car. (Unless you bought the CD album, then theres no need to burn anything-I'm not speaking about piracy here)

I admit there seems to be better songs in ones youth, teen years than there is now, but we're also grown up adults now, we have to go to work, pay for mortgage, feed the fat little kids with McCrap, slap the wife around a bit e.t.c
So not much time to sit and get into music as when you were lazying about at school/uni years.

Anyway, I'm still waiting for someone to post something that qualifies for Top 100 charts.....

Maybe I should visit a Roland forum and see what those guys are doing? Embarassed

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runningman67 · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 6:58 pm Post subject:

RonF · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 7:10 pm Post subject:

Belexandor · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 8:34 pm Post subject:

http://soundcloud.com/smitty78/the-dreamer

Hedegaard,

Here you go. Go to town on it. I won't be offended by any criticism. I recorded this about seven or eight years ago using a Baldwin digital piano run thru a kurz micro ensemble and into a zoom digital multitrack......................It's rough as hell and never made it out of the state in which it is presented here: rough draft............ but it does have a melody.

cello · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:01 pm Post subject:

Okay, I'll play along too Laughing

http://soundcloud.com/ngowans/quartet-dream

Started and finished today - that's about as recent as you can get!

A sketch piece (which I wanted to record whilst I remember it - haven't notated it yet!) where the pianist whilst playing dreams of hearing a quartet playing with her... and then a large orchestra... and so it comes, eventually Smile

Tech Info - all strings/pads played on Korg OASYS. All other sounds, the -keyboard-with-no-name.

Recorded/mastered on Korg D3200.

Composed and performed by me.

Ready to duck for cover...

(BTW - good debate here but let's hope it doesn't go to haywire otherwise mods will just lock it and that would be shame!)
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Hedegaard · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:09 pm Post subject:

Dear Ron,
Thanks for your candid, frank and honest essay dissertation and your time taken to write all that.
I really do appreciate it and you are correct in a number of things.

Yeah quite right, there is a difference in production and composition and the part in your "Pray for me" song where the piano drowns out your nieces lovely voice was a shame. Really, because her voice really is of great class. I'm happy to hear that she is successful with her voice/talent and seems to be putting it to good use, rather than wasting it with hobby music.
That we can agree on and its ok, I don't need to know who she is, hearing her sing was a pleasure all by itself Smile

Anyway, this was about production, not composition as you pointed out.
But still there is a difference and I *think* it leaks into the sphere of composition, because anyone with an ear would have cut back on the amplitude of that piano at that particular part. So its not the recording quality which failed in this regard, but the composition, because the piano stole too much of the audible range.

And as you pointed out, my recording quality sucked for my song, I already know this and had mentioned it at the same time as I posted my link.

With regards to a "20 year old song". Let me digress, the song idea is roughly 20 years old and had existed as a riff for many years, but finally became as a complete song in the year 2001, which makes it 10 years old. I chose this song, because of its natural crappy acoustic sounds, which is, by my estimation, what most of you guys are posting here:
Acoustic sounding songs.
When I do something on the Oasys, I'll post it here and you're welcome to tear it apart. I praise criticism, because its the ONLY thing you can learn & improve from.

But I suppose its pretty tough too, because these things (music) is indeed very much about opinion.
I just find that my opinion is usually right about musical things, believe me, if I hear a song on a radio and I think its absolutely great, then this particular song has tremendous potential.
You know, you can appreciate fine art, you can love subtle lines, depth, mood, emotion, but you can't paint to save your life, but it dosen't stop you from appreciating quality when you see it.
Same with music.

Perhaps you're surrounded by people that are more appreciative of your efforts and probably are a bit kind in their criticisms of you. Maybe they find you full of talent, because they themselves can't play anything.
Perhaps thats why I seem "biased, hypocrite, rude" e.t.c. because I'm one of the few that actually point out truthfully, in my opinion, why your songs aren't catchy, or good enough material to be used on the radio (as an example)

But I AM happy on your behalf, that you are enjoying it, making some kind of money (which is very hard in itself) from your musical abilities.
And as I said, its only my opinion and I'm just a nobody on the internet, so it shouldn't matter at all to you. But despite that, I just know what sounds good to the ear, compositionally speaking that is.
And your songs, so far are a little "bland" or "blurred" or "washed out".

Sorry for using the word "tasteless", my English isn't perfect and I just meant that the songs just simply don't inspire, or provoke a mood within me. You're right, certainly your music dosen't "bash the poor" or "pick on disabled people", it just hurts my ears so damn much!
That was just a joke, your music isn't "hard to listen to" at all Smile

Oddly enough, your latest posting - that film score - is audibly, sonically (compositionally speaking) more interesting than your others. Because there is change within it and seems to manage to draw you into it. Which is a little difficult to do with film scores, because the music is the carrier of the message, but the pictures are the message themselves.
There is setting of "mood" within it, which is essential in film music and it gets going quite good.
But then towards the middle it again borrowed your more usual style of this crazy "auto accompaniment" rhythms filled with drum fills and bass trills and what not.
However, I would rate this higher than your other songs and I think it shows more clearly efforts from your creativity Smile

New Age, I still concur, its really very bland overall and without anything constructive melodic in them.
Its almost an insult to me that you would class my song as New Age, but its ok, I'm not offended Smile

I'm sure in the future, someone will make software that can auto-program New Age music.

I suppose borderline New Age, some of Vangelis pieces, such as the album "Voices" was really great. Here is someone who instinctively knows by intuition how to compose really magical pieces. Not all of them, but many songs.
I would class some of his songs as Top 100. Take Chariots of Fire for example. Very good song. It deserved a place up there.

With Top 100, I mean "general". Any kind of song, which sincerely deserves a place in the Top 100. Trust me, if its New Age, or heavy metal, rock, pop, or blues and it SOUNDS really terrific, the song will carry itself to the Top 100.

About the part where you admire your New Age artist friends. Sure, they can be really stand-up people and be firemen in their spare time, but it dosen't mean their music is automatically great.
Hip Hop music from Gangsta's make millions, but not all their music is great, some are downright nasty grinding things.
So its not about the money either, its about a song that can carry far off into the future. Usually only Top 100 songs can do this.
Madonna's old songs still get played. So do Michael Jacksons songs, so do Bob Dillion's, the Beatles e.t.c.
These people made some really great songs and some of these songs probably didn't earn nearly as much as some modern day gangsta rap.

Its perfectly ok that you don't want to make something Top100, I fully respect that.

So, I'm still waiting for someone here (including myself) to post something that isn't a demo of a Combination from the Kronos, but can rip right into the charts.

Finally, its not my purpose to go out of my way to offend/upset you, I'm just stating honestly my opinion of your music, not about you as a person, because as a person I think you're quite sincere and seem very decent! Smile

Also respectfully,
Hedegaard
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Hedegaard · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:19 pm Post subject:

Hedegaard · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:38 pm Post subject:

runningman67 · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:52 pm Post subject:

cello · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 9:57 pm Post subject:

cello · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:08 pm Post subject:

runningman67 · Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 10:18 pm Post subject:

music is what feelings sound like

Perfect Cello
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