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Korg Pa4X MP3 audio harmony ???? MISSING
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korgpask
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:22 am    Post subject: Korg Pa4X MP3 audio harmony ???? MISSING Reply with quote

Korg Pa3X - YES mp3 audio chord harmony recognition
Korg Pa4X - NO mp3 audio chord harmony recognition MISSING !!!

Korg Pa3X Harmony type:
1. chord
2. MP3 audio !!!!!!! YES !!!
3. scale
4. shift
5. notes
http://www.korgpa.sk/pa4x/Korg_Pa3X_MP3_audio_Harmony.jpg


Korg Pa4X Harmony type:
1. chord
MISSING !!! (mp3 audio!!!)
2. scale
3. shift
4. notes

http://www.korgpa.sk/pa4x/Korg_Pa4X_Harmony_type.jpg
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks very much like it has been removed.

Did anyone actually ever rely on it?
I must try it out of curiosity.

Sort of a bit like "MP3 Vocal remover" - just a fun gimmick really - Audya tried that too!!!
Although they have kept the "MP3 Vocal Remover" in the PA4X.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just dont get it, why they removed so much stuff from the pa3x? In the past they only added new things while keeping previous generation things in place...

Or would it be that they are using the exact same processing hardware as the pa3x? And they needed to make room for new stuff...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

But how well did it work?

Was anyone using full backing tracks as a reliable way to trigger the harmony?

Before you moan a feature's loss, make sure it actually worked well in the first place! Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:30 am    Post subject: MP3 audio HARMONY Reply with quote

MP3 audio harmony feature I have personally used and it was a very good function. One singer from MP3 instrumental song he knew at singing sing with vocaliser. A TC-Helicon proved as the MIDI song as well as MP3 song produced vocals.

TC helicon could read harmony (chords) MP3 song and created the vocals to MP3 though there was no singing people.

Very very cool feature and it has no other instrument!
Korg Pa3X is the only one who can do it!


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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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why they removed so much stuff from the pa3x?


"so much stuff"? I am not missing anything since my PA1Xpro, but maybe there are some things I never use.
The only big thing I "miss" is the i-series backing sequencer but we are talking about different generations of arranger.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

karmathanever wrote:
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why they removed so much stuff from the pa3x?


"so much stuff"? I am not missing anything since my PA1Xpro, but maybe there are some things I never use.
The only big thing I "miss" is the i-series backing sequencer but we are talking about different generations of arranger.

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I meant stuff that was in the pa3x, but not in the pa4x.... Its quite a list so far...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 3:51 pm    Post subject: Re: MP3 audio HARMONY Reply with quote

korgpask wrote:
MP3 audio harmony feature I have personally used and it was a very good function. One singer from MP3 instrumental song he knew at singing sing with vocaliser. A TC-Helicon proved as the MIDI song as well as MP3 song produced vocals.

TC helicon could read harmony (chords) MP3 song and created the vocals to MP3 though there was no singing people.

Very very cool feature and it has no other instrument!
Korg Pa3X is the only one who can do it!


But how reliable is it? How does it deal with a busy, percussion and drum heavy mix? Is it something you can use on just about any backing track and get reliable, accurate triggering? It doesn't, so far, look like a whole bunch of people use it. Could that mean it's not that useful?

Personally, rather than reading an mp3 for chords, for duo's, at least, it might be great to have the audio inputs be available for chord detection from audio. Then you simply plug the guitar player's guitar into it, and you would have the same kind of ability that most modern VH pedals do... Most of those kinds of pedals, that do 'audio to chord detection', work FAR more accurately on just a simple input (a guitar, a piano) than they do on an entire mix of a band...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2015 4:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Bachus
Please summarise the "missing" list

Thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

karmathanever wrote:
Hi Bachus
Please summarise the "missing" list

Thanks
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It seems to be much smaller than originally thought. Wink

And missing items don't seem to be significant. Yet, more will likely crop up as manuals and the actual keyboards become available. Shocked
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It seems to be much smaller than originally thought. Wnk
And missing items don't seem to be significant. Yet, more will likely crop up as manuals and the actual keyboards become available.

Maybe, but don't forget about all the NEW features.

So far (for me) the "missing" items are about as significant as the colour of the keyboard.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

karmathanever wrote:
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It seems to be much smaller than originally thought. Wnk
And missing items don't seem to be significant. Yet, more will likely crop up as manuals and the actual keyboards become available.

Maybe, but don't forget about all the NEW features.

So far (for me) the "missing" items are about as significant as the colour of the keyboard.

Cheers

Pete Very Happy


Keyboard color can honestly throw some totally off their feed. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 07, 2015 8:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Keyboard color can honestly throw some totally off their feed.

Very Happy

Nord??? Wink
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 08, 2015 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The audience cannot HEAR what color your keyboard is... Rolling Eyes

As long as the keys are the standard colors (I remember having some sight issues playing an old reversed Vox Continental keybed on dark stages! - That's how old I am Twisted Evil ) and you can read the button and slider labels under stage lighting, who CARES? Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 09, 2015 1:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Diki

nitecrawler & I were joking…. Wink

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