Oasys Librarian

danatkorg · Post by **danatkorg** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:44 pm

Derm wrote:I think its a pity that further development has been hindered by lack of support, especially when the program developer is working for no personal gain.

Daz hasn't contacted me recently asking for support, so I was a little surprised to read his message here. Updated documentation is indeed available.

- Dan

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:56 pm

That's good to hear, thanks Dan. For what it's worth I did tell Korg during the beta testing of MOD-7 that my application had been broken by the changes introduced with MOD-7, and asked for the necessary information at that point.

So, yes please ... I'd like to have that information and any future information as it becomes available. I'd like to be in the loop for these things, if possible, as I am actively developing stuff for the O (albeit a little slowly due to work demands).

Daz.

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:50 pm

Derm wrote:I think its a pity that further development has been hindered by lack of support, especially when the program developer is working for no personal gain.

It's not a "lack of support", but rather a pitfall of working with a proprietary file format that is subject to change as the product develops (which is a good thing). Choosing to "deprecate an application until further notice" because it might not work as expected and that you are not in a position to fix, is the most sensible course of action.

If there were cause for complaint, trust me, I would be complaining in clear and unambivalent terms ... as I have done about my pet peeves (inability to edit in multi-mode etc.)

Distributing software that knowingly doesn't work and might get worse in the future is irresponsible. In a funny way, I'd actually rather expected to be commended for not doing so. It's a difficult decision to make, when you've put a lot of effort into something and have to admit you need to suspend your efforts. Again, as I said, it's a "professional hazard" for people working with something proprietary.

Daz.

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:30 am

As I was asked about this offline ... just wanted to clarify that the Randomizer is still alive and well. It's not subject to the same kind of problems, because it relies on knowledge that the application has learned by listening to the sysex data generated when modifying parameters on the Oasys. It's easy for me to re-train it if necessary when/if something changes.

Daz.

Charlie · Post by **Charlie** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 11:31 am

Ah - glad to hear that. Thought this nice tool wont work any longer, too. As soon as I have my Mac I want to try it!

kenackr · Post by **kenackr** » Thu Jan 17, 2008 8:07 pm

Daz,

Since Dan seems amenable to supply you additional information, have you thought about continuing on with the librarian?

I certainly can't speak for others, but personally I wouldn't mind paying for a decent one.

Ken

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Fri Jan 18, 2008 5:57 am

Dan is being a big help with providing available info, as before, so we'll see. But that's not the whole picture, there are some complex things that maybe require documentation or information beyond what is feasible to ask for. The Oasys keeps changing (no complaints there

) but it means you can't handle the data as opaquely as you could with the Triton or similar when things were more set in stone. I'll got into more details when I get a moment.

More news, as and when ...

Akos Janca · Post by **Akos Janca** » Sun Mar 21, 2010 7:36 pm

Daz wrote:Note that the Librarian application's Audition function doesn't work with MOD-7 Programs, because Korg changed the way things work without notice.

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This application is now deprecated until further notice. It is no longer available for download.

Dear Daz,

While I fully understand your decision I would like to try to use the librarian as is, in its last version, if possible - certainly for my own risk. I don't use MOD-7 (haven't bought it yet) so I think I could use the librarian for other sounds well. I'm in a big job organizing my sounds. Your software would help a lot.

I tried Stuart Pryer's Oasys Companion, unfortunately without success. Your librarian seems to be the only solution. Please answer how to get it - I'm preferably on Mac but also have Win7.

Thank you in advance,

Akos

Akos Janca · Post by **Akos Janca** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 8:26 am

Thanks Daz, I already got it from another helpful guy. The software worked (under Win7 emulation with Parallels Desktop on a MacBookPro

) and helped me much.

Too bad we don't have a similar simple librarian utility from Korg for free (renaming and reorganizing Programs and Combis in Banks). As Ken says, "I wouldn't mind paying for a decent one" - but officially it doesn't exist either.

Daz · Post by **Daz** » Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:51 pm

I didn't forget you

I will PM you a link to the last Mac version. It's the better version of the two and the one I will support for friends because I use it myself.

Akos Janca · Post by **Akos Janca** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 8:41 am

Daz wrote:I didn't forget you I will PM you a link to the last Mac version. It's the better version of the two and the one I will support for friends because I use it myself.

I got it, thanks a million! The Mac version is better and nicer, as usual.

You know it for sure: It would be good to be able to see (and change) the Programs inside a Combi. Make it then sell this great utility to Korg!

Thank you very much again for your kind help. This forum rocks!

Kevin Nolan · Post by **Kevin Nolan** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 9:55 am

Hi Daz -

Might I trouble you to PM the link to me also?

Thanks,
Kevin.

t_tangent · Post by **t_tangent** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 11:27 am

Hi Daz,

If your librarian works ok with Windows then I would love to try it out as well. Thanks.

Is your librarian similar to the OASYS Companion by Stuart Pryer.
I bought that a while back and then Korg changed a lot of the file format structure in the last couple of OS updates I seem to recall. Although the main functions do work in the Oasys Companion as far as I remember, I did have some serious issues with the OASYS freezing from time to time and I would have to reboot OASYS and my PC. When I spoke with Stuart about this he said he was unable to update OASYS Companion as Korg would not release the relevent documentation that he needed. I am not sure if anything has changed since then or if other users of Stuart's librarian are getting better results. But I basically stopped using it due to its instability at the time. I might have another look again though just to remind myself

Also, if the documentation you and Dan have mentioned in this thread is related to the pcg file structure which changed with the OASYS last OS revisions, would it be possible to get a copy so I can send this on to Stuart in the hope that he might be able to update OASYS Companion. Now that Korg have stopped further releases OASYS OS, I would imagine any other 3rd party utilities would be simpler to support now rather than having to revise them every time there was an OASYS OS update.

Hope this was not too off topic, and thanks for any infos on this.

Cheers

Tim

gorkymate · Post by **gorkymate** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 3:59 pm

Daz,

were can I download you librarian...link from before doesn't work

Best Regards

kenackr · Post by **kenackr** » Sat Mar 27, 2010 6:10 pm

Daz,

Me too pretty please.

Ken