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Narioso

Hi
Thinking about ordering KK, but really bothered about only having 100 user slots for own programs, and being stuck with 200 of something you don't want.

Looked in librarian software manual, but all they mention is drag n drop to favourite locations.

But mention you can save library 300 slots to
"300 p.c.s of program data and favorite data" in kklib files.

Made me think maybe you can patch these and replace factory stuff?

And searching forum there seem to be a global write protect that you can alter to overwrite factory preset locatons 1-200 as well.

If this is the case - it's a buy of KK for me.

So is there not only 100 user writeable locations but all 300 can be used?

Thanks.

noguud · Joined: 04 Oct 2015 Posts: 35

Yes, you can overwrite the first 200 factory patches.

They call the 200-300 the "user" range because they are empty for a brand new (or reset) unit.

Narioso · Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:14 am Post subject:

Much obliged, thank you for confirming.

I don't think I'm the only one thinking the only writeable locations are the user presets - so you are stuck with factory presets, like synths in the 80's and 90's, at least those I saw then.

I easily use up 100 locations saving intermediate programs exploring the abilities in there. Regarding KK abilities are extensive, compared to many.
Smile

SanderXpander · Platinum Member Joined: 29 Jul 2011 Posts: 7860

I suppose the documentation could be even clearer, but unlike products from competitors, this is standard fare for Korg synths. You've always been able to overwrite all memory locations, for all synths that I know of at least.

Narioso · Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 2:43 pm Post subject:

SanderXpander · Platinum Member Joined: 29 Jul 2011 Posts: 7860

It would have been clearer if they had said it comes loaded with 200 sounds but all 300 memory locations are user-rewriteable, I agree. I don't know why someone with a Kronos and M50 would assume otherwise, honestly. It has been this way since forever with Korg stuff.

Narioso · Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 6:51 am Post subject:

SanderXpander · Platinum Member Joined: 29 Jul 2011 Posts: 7860

I agree, that's a shame. It's all the fault of Yamaha and Roland anyway, who insist on having unchangeable presets Smile

Makes no sense to me at all on a synth, even if you'd want to make a small change (less reverb?) you can't save it. One more reason to stick with Korg.

Narioso · Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 11:20 am Post subject:

You know your Korg.

I really look forward to KK as my first Korg synth.

I found the CX-3v2 had a good approach in menus, compared to Hammond. Korg had everything global, under global - for Hammond you need to read manual and memorize which parameters are preset only or global, it tells they have less experience in the field of midi. And using Hammond as external midi gear for computer sequencing it's even weird - you have to move setting for pedal events source back and forth between midi in and from physical pedal for playback or live recording.

So reading reviews and exploring youtube about KK, saying it's some diving in menus I trust it to be good as can be. And quite a bit as physical knobs as well.

michelkeijzers · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 9:42 am Post subject:

SanderXpander · Platinum Member Joined: 29 Jul 2011 Posts: 7860

I've never owned one, you may be right. I'm mostly familiar with Korg from since the Trinity. I've worked with M1s a few times but don't know if they have "true ROM". Going back even further, the PolySix had all patches overwriteable too! Smile

michelkeijzers · Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:45 pm Post subject:

EvilDragon · Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 12:27 am Post subject:

X5(D) doesn't have non-overwriteable patches. It just has a single bank of 100 sounds.

N2/364 have 2 factory banks (A and B) with 100 sounds each that can't be overwritten, and 2 user banks (C and D).

michelkeijzers · Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2015 9:35 am Post subject:

Savante · Posted: Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:21 pm Post subject:

The confusion persists regarding the ability for the user to rewrite patches 1-200 on the KingKorg NEO.

I have had many Korg synths and it has always been possible to rewrite any of the user patches. In some of the old documentation this is made clear.

It is NOT clear in the old KingKorg documention, and this absence of clarity is still there in the documentation for the new KingKorg NEO.

Korg should wake up about this issue.
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