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deliad
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 Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 1:16 am Post subject: Most of the PA4X Sounds are sampled / encoded in low quality |
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hi guys,
i want to share something with you ,
NOT ANYONE CAN HEAR AND NOTICE THAT!.
but that after massive comparison, i can notice that in pa4x, the old 3x rom sounds are encoded / sampled in lower quality than in the pa3x
if you have good hearing sense you can notice to the digital distortion that can be heard on sounds that was in the pa3x and the old non-Chinese line of korg
the rom samples of the sounds that was in the 3x are more "thin" in the 4x and you can notice that buy gain the higher eq for example of the piano sound
you will notice the digital distortion like that actually appears in lower bitrate encoded sound, this happens when the frequencies of the sound itself are not really wide enough which means this old rom sounds are thinner than in the 3x technically.
this lower encoded of rom sounds can be noticed in all of the Korg new made in china line , which are the PA600 / 900 / 3LE / 4X
also, iv'e noticed that the overall compression is very limited compared to the 3x, which can survive high db level of mixed sound (all style tracks + uppers together) - pa4x compresses my overall sound at less db than the 3x.
i'll be happy to have some comment from korg engineer here, i don't believe it will happen , because i don't think that korg's worker can confirm such a bad thing on korg.
but i had the PA3X , PA900 and now the PA4X and i can say that korg's china line have lower quality rom sounds than the pa3x rom sounds.
i'm disappointed. |
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karmathanever
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please give us an "apples-for-apples" PA3X and PA4X audio example so that we can hear this.
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ozdaniel(AD)
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Location: Melbourne-Australia
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 7:51 am Post subject: Re: Most of the PA4X Sounds are sampled / encoded in low qua |
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| deliad wrote: | hi guys,
i want to share something with you ,
NOT ANYONE CAN HEAR AND NOTICE THAT!.
but that after massive comparison, i can notice that in pa4x, the old 3x rom sounds are encoded / sampled in lower quality than in the pa3x
if you have good hearing sense you can notice to the digital distortion that can be heard on sounds that was in the pa3x and the old non-Chinese line of korg
the rom samples of the sounds that was in the 3x are more "thin" in the 4x and you can notice that buy gain the higher eq for example of the piano sound
you will notice the digital distortion like that actually appears in lower bitrate encoded sound, this happens when the frequencies of the sound itself are not really wide enough which means this old rom sounds are thinner than in the 3x technically.
this lower encoded of rom sounds can be noticed in all of the Korg new made in china line , which are the PA600 / 900 / 3LE / 4X
also, iv'e noticed that the overall compression is very limited compared to the 3x, which can survive high db level of mixed sound (all style tracks + uppers together) - pa4x compresses my overall sound at less db than the 3x.
i'll be happy to have some comment from korg engineer here, i don't believe it will happen , because i don't think that korg's worker can confirm such a bad thing on korg.
but i had the PA3X , PA900 and now the PA4X and i can say that korg's china line have lower quality rom sounds than the pa3x rom sounds.
i'm disappointed. |
I'm sure you did not even put a hand on KORG Pa4x! I'm sure you've tested a KORG Pa4x! I'm sure you have a keyboard from another brand 
Here's a small demonstration with KORG Pa4x-DIAMOND..only with factory sounds;
1. https://soundcloud.com/daniel_ad/korg-pa4x-autumn-leaves-ad
And a small demonstration , Style's made from midi files:
2. https://soundcloud.com/daniel_ad/korg-pa4x-styles-michael-buble-program-ad
Regards
Daniel
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Vex
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Joined: 13 Apr 2006
Posts: 443
Location: Serbia
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:11 pm Post subject: Re: Most of the PA4X Sounds are sampled / encoded in low qua |
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| deliad wrote: |
this lower encoded of rom sounds can be noticed in all of the Korg new made in china line , which are the PA600 / 900 / 3LE / 4X
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My Pa4x is made in Italy 
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Nemik
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Joined: 27 Jan 2014
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Location: Hilton Head Island, SC
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| Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2015 2:56 pm Post subject: Re: Most of the PA4X Sounds are sampled / encoded in low qua |
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| Vex wrote: | | deliad wrote: |
this lower encoded of rom sounds can be noticed in all of the Korg new made in china line , which are the PA600 / 900 / 3LE / 4X
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My Pa4x is made in Italy |
My Pa600 is from China, but sample is not something they ensemble in china, is software part, more like Firmware in case ROM.
AS quality of sample.... in nothing wrong with samples in Pa600 either.
| deliad wrote: | | NOT ANYONE CAN HEAR AND NOTICE THAT!. |
looks like is you have hearing problem, could be your sound system or else.
Again is nothing wrong in Korg quality sampling samples, please think twice before you conclude something not making any sense.
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karmathanever
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Joined: 12 Jan 2004
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Hey Daniel - was that you playing Autumn Leaves?
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BR
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Location: USA
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| Quote: | deliad wrote:
NOT ANYONE CAN HEAR AND NOTICE THAT!. |
If "NOT ANYONE CAN HEAR AND NOTICE THAT!." so what's the problem? LOL... |
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flyadser
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Location: China
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| Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:34 am Post subject: |
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korg has no oversea company in china only oem factory, korg china is just the distributor
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