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[mabcomp]

Hey as you all know I'm sure, the hardest thing to achieve is a good live piano sound. Usually all the other sounds are fine but the pianos are a problem. They will sound better in stereo of course but has anybody got any recommendations.? Some have suggested JBL EON and Yamaha HS7.

I often hear fantastic sounding pianos on the arrangers and workstations when listening to live media and I think wow how the heck is he getting such a good sound on the Piano.
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[D575]

If you can demo a pair of Yamaha DSR 112 or DSR 115 for live work you won't be disappointed, but keeping in mind a good sound is all relative according to speaker placement and EQ
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[Chuck]

Get ready to get your wallet out but you will not regret it once you hear the Bose L1 Model II speakers. I have been using them for 5 years now without any regret. Good luck...Chuck, USA
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[BR]

Chuck wrote:

[paul]

[Eduardo_Arg]

Hi Br:

I'm a Bose user since last years, and i'm asure you it's a good product, lightweight, and with an excellent frequency response, but too expensive if you want to get power and supernatural sounding.-

In my case i bought 2 unit (1 per side, and double sub per side).- If you are planing to use it live situations, in small indoor places works fine (up to 100 pers), but for outdoors it haves high dispertion and less power on bass sounds.-

If someday no need to play outdoor, Bose L1 II, is not the right choice.-

Jonyblues give's you the best option for indoor and outdoor: QSC active speakers (2 12 inch units + high quality sub, 1000 wts. power), costs the same as a single Bose unit (1 tower + sub).-

I suggest you to your dealer and test both, then you could do a reasonable invest.-

With regards.
Eduardo
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[Chuck]

Everyone has an opinion on which is the best way to go for PA systems. I've tried them all believe me. I was hesitant at first to try to Bose system. They let me try them for two weeks and I was sold. But I chose to go with a set on each side with 4 sub woofers. Bose has changed the sub woofers since I purchased. I plan to go to their new B2 sub when I get some extra cash. Again, best of luck on your choice.
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[BR]

Thanks Paul, Eduardo_Arg and Chuck for your opinion about the PA system.
[quote]Eduardo_Arg wrote:

[Sharp]

My 2 cents......

The Bose L1 MII is a very bad idea given that it's a mono system. It's like playing with one finger stuffed in your ear. You lose width, depth and clarity to your sound. The only time the Bose L1 MII makes any sense is if you have two systems and you forget about the TomeMatch desk and use a traditional desk. When you do that, the sound is quite impressive.

It's still not the perfect system though even if you have two, simply from the point of view that there's too many “bits” to carry and stick together to set it all up. It's also quite overpriced, and so are the accessories like the bags and covers to carry it all.

You would be better off buying anything but the Bose L1 MII to be honest. There are countless other systems to choose from that offer far better sound, more volume, better value and less hassle.

The Bose L1 MII were popular here where I live when they were released, but since then everyone has pretty much given up on them for large venues and gone with a pair of Mackie DLM 12 and one or two DLM 12S Bins.

Regards
Sharp.
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[AudioProCT]

There are a few questions to answer to come even close to giving a recommendation.

Where would you be playing?

what size of the room?

How many People?

What type of event, wedding, restaurant, nursing home?

Budget?

What kind of weight or vehicle will you be transporting in?


Then from here, I could give you a few suggestions


I carry and have used allot of different systems, I will do my best to suggest
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[Eduardo_Arg]

Hi Br:

I'll try to clarify what i said.-
As Sharp said, if you go for Bose L1 II, to keep the best sounding on stage you'll need at leas 2 units ( to preserve stereo efects ).- So, if you choose these system you must invest twice the cost of a QSC (2 units + sub).-

Bose pa speaker are good enough for indoor and small places up to 100/150.-

The most crucial aspect in stage sounding are bass sounds.-

Bose L1 II, really sounds good, on high, medium, and frecuencys, but when you push it up, bass frequencys are ineficient.-

Bose L1 II and similar models form others manufacturers, are less wheight and easily transportable, but also less efficient when you really need power.-

As i mention on my last reply, i own 2 bose L1 II units, but only for use it in my studio or at least in very small places.- For live situations in my band uses a proffesional PA with a very flexible configuration (8 mid/high units 8'' and 4 subs 18'').-

Another factor you must take in count is which instrument will be played simultaneously with your keyboard (bass, acoustic guitar, electric guitar, percussions, voices, etc.).- Bose L1 II it's apropiate for soloist or at least two musicians and voices.- But if you have a band, Bose can't manage a good service to your music.-

As i said before, go your delear and test different units, then you could make your choice.-

With regards. Eduardo
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[Chuck]

Wow, this subject has really taken off and with a lot of interesting input. So this is my final.
I admit that when I was looking for a new system I wanted something that wasn't so big and cumbersome to haul around and set up so the Bose system took care of that concern. I don't care about the bits and pieces. In the end I can still be set up in less than 30 minutes and I am not tired and sweating from doing so.
As for the sound, especially the bass. Two B1's on each side really works well for me. But lets be clear. I play the Korg Keyboard Arranger, so the sound is a complete band similar to what a DJ would sound like minus the edited sounds. No it is not stereo, but dual mono. To be honest I know very few players who use stereo while performing especially bars and clubs.
Yes, the Bose units are pricey, but I've noticed lately that some of the newer products are pricey also.
If you are still concerned about getting more bottom and you choose the Bose system, try one of the new B2 subs. I did and was really impressed with the 3 different levels you can use to adjust the base.
In the end ALL of us that have responded have their opinion and are very knowledgeable. SO it will be difficult for you to decide. Good luck.
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