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Thepoliskey
Joined: 28 Mar 2014 Posts: 15
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:15 pm Post subject: Separate sliders recording |
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Hi,
In sequencer I splited drumtrack keyboard zones to 4 different timbres so I could turn separately kick, snare etc. I set those timbres to one midi channel. While recording I fade in kick first, then snare and so on. But when playing back all sliders behave the same (mapping kick's slider movements). What I'm doing wrong and how to do this the right way, help please? |
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19naia Platinum Member
Joined: 29 Nov 2012 Posts: 1216
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Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:22 pm Post subject: Re: Separate sliders recording |
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Thepoliskey wrote: | Hi,
In sequencer I splited drumtrack keyboard zones to 4 different timbres so I could turn separately kick, snare etc. I set those timbres to one midi channel. While recording I fade in kick first, then snare and so on. But when playing back all sliders behave the same (mapping kick's slider movements). What I'm doing wrong and how to do this the right way, help please? |
Did you record each track by itself making sure that all other tracks were off when recording?
Or maybe the slider input is recorded to Master track and master track plays it back for Midi channel 1 and any track set to midi channel 1 will respond to all messages recorded for midi channel 1?
Also there is a “Level Hold” function, that makes all sliders lock into unison so that any movement in one will take all the other levels along in the same increment. Check to see “Level Hold” is not enabled.
Maybe someone knows some setting somewhere to isolate slider messages between tracks using the same midi channel. Maybe a setting that determines if slider inputs get recorded to master track or independent tracks.
If no simple setting solution comes up, i would try recording each track without slider input, and then do an overdub of each track where you record and make your slider inputs over the prerecorded drum track part.
Maybe “Level Hold” is only in Combi mode?
I don’t think i have a good handle on the problem, but it interests me.
Sorry if i have no real solution. |
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ronnfigg Platinum Member
Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2141 Location: CA
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:48 am Post subject: |
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Being on the same MIDI channel causes this. Not sure what the workaround is. _________________ "To me the synthesizer was always a source of new sounds that musicians could use to expand the range of possibilities for making music."
Bob Moog |
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ronnfigg Platinum Member
Joined: 26 Mar 2011 Posts: 2141 Location: CA
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2019 9:53 am Post subject: |
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PS- the feature is called "Hold Balance" and it is in Combi not Seq Mode. _________________ "To me the synthesizer was always a source of new sounds that musicians could use to expand the range of possibilities for making music."
Bob Moog |
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Thepoliskey
Joined: 28 Mar 2014 Posts: 15
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Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:26 pm Post subject: |
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I did not any other solution so I made like this:
Set 4 timbres to the same midi channel, record all of them (just midi notes), then changed each timbre to different channel, and then record sliders in overdub mode ( all the same time).
Not perfect way I know but did a job.
If anyone knows better way to do it, please share. |
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SeedyLee Platinum Member
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 1370 Location: Perth, Australia
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Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:20 am Post subject: |
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The solution is to change a setting in Global -> MIDI called "Parem Edit" and ensure this is set to "SysEx" when recording your slider movements. If this is set to Continuous Controller, then your slider movements will be recorded according to the channel you are recording to and all in the one track. When they are played back, they will affect all tracks using the same channel number. By using Sysex, the movements are still recorded to the same track, but details of which slider has moved are embedded in the Sysex message and they will be affect the correct slider.
The main downside of recording them as sysex messages is that they become harder to edit, but this may not be an issue if you're recording the movements live anyway. _________________ Current Equipment:
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