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Dumping MIDI sequencer song into DAW : how?

 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 30, 2017 1:24 am    Post subject: Dumping MIDI sequencer song into DAW : how? Reply with quote

I'm revisiting an old album and want to bring an entire song from my [Trinity HDR V3] sequencer into my DAW so I can replace certain instruments with VSTis and have better control of the mix. It uses the whole 16 tracks.

Problem: I've been out of the loop for years and I can't figure this out. OK, lame excuse: I just can't figure it out, period. Any help and tips would be greatly appreciated. I Googled for hours, watched videos, searched the manual, but couldn't find an answer to my question. So I thought I'd ask here, as you guys are all users.

Thanks in advance for any tip!
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, so anybody knows how to download a MIDI song from the Trinity into a computer?
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't used the Trinity in that capacity. I've always recorded the Trinity's audio into an audio editor.

To record tracks externally, guessing you set the global Midi channel to 01, and then in Sequencer mode go to Page2 and set the Midi tracks accordingly.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, thank you! I went in the global and it's at channel 01. But I also found something else under the SAVE option, to Save std MIDI file. So I saved the song that way and will find myself a floppy reader to get this on my computer. I'll let you guys know if it works. Could help someone else at some point... Smile

Cheers,

Andre
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

D'oh, what an idiot, I completely forgot about that. Standard Midi File (SMF type 0 or 1) is an option for floppy save. I've rarely used the Trinity in this way. Apologies.
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In fact I think it's called STD (wahhh?) format 0 or 1. Do you know how I decide which to pick? I'm on a PC, so it's going to be processed on a PC.

Thanks!
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Question: so all this transfer cannot be done via MIDI cables, correct? I'm having to order a floppy drive online, visited 8 stores today in town, nothing was found.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You could always send the SNG files to me, and I can try saving them as std for you.

Have you tried Trinitro? Think it handles SNGs, but unsure in what capacity.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 5:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Timo,

I just realized std means standard, in the Trinity it is called std MIDI files = SMF. Duh.

I'll get myself a floppy and get through this! Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An external USB floppy drive is always handy to have, when you have Trinity, Triton et al. Think mine only cost me £6 off ebay inc. P&P.

Just recently transferred all contents of my Trinity floppies to PC for safe backup.

My USB floppy drive seems a little hit and miss with Win10 though. Worked perfectly well with Vista, Win7 and Win8.1, but with Win10 50% of the time it works, 50% it doesn't, saying there is an error on the floppy disk. Unsure if it's a problem with the disks themselves, but I just keep retrying (removing USB floppy and reconnecting) and eventually it recognises them and allows to read/transfer data.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2017 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I decided to try something.

I have 16 channels of data on the Trinity sequencer. So I setup MIDI out and MIDI in cables from the Trinity to the sound card.

Then I paired each track in my DAW with a corresponding "Receiving" channel. So : Track 1 receives from Channel 1, Track 2 from channel 2, and so on.

Then I armed the 16 tracks and clicked RECORD. Then I clicked START on the sequencer. I went through the whole song. However only 8 tracks received data.

Setting each track to receive from the "external MIDI Device (Trinity), when I play back and listen through the Trinity's headphone jack each track that plays has the right instrument playing, but I'm missing half the tracks and instruments.

Anything jumps at you that I forgot to setup? (I'm using Mixcraft by Acoustica).

Thanks!
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