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[dkalna]

Hi there

How do I insert drum fills and breaks (patterns) into my song in sequencer mode
and where do i find those patterns on Kronos? Do I have to use Karma for that?

Any help is appreciated.
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Best regards
Dalibor

[19naia]

Karma is one way of doing it and it takes work to find the right pattern and adjust parameters for the right fill. You could have Karma do all the drum pattern parts rather than drum track.

Another option: Record while Manually playing the keys for fills if you are a good finger drummer (The recording can then be saved as a User pattern via RPPR).

There is Pattern RPPR that lets you work with patterns that can go into drum track later. RPPR lets you take a preset pattern and edit it in a user pattern slot. Editing with a step sequencer style of working. You can take out notes and add notes, make the part shorter or longer, volume/velocity of each note and so on. You can record overdub of two patterns in one track to get a hybrid rythm and edit the end result for more fine tuned fill pattern.
You can record Karma patterns to a midi track and then open that track midi data in RPPR and create a user pattern that can be edited and used in RPPR or just run as a sequencer drum track.

Not much in the way of preset drum-track patterns that come with a set of related fills, intros and endings, but there is a lot that Karma can do and a lot that can be put together with RPPR. RPPR is equipped to orchestrate entire drum songs with any kind of intros, breaks, fills or endings you want. Of course you will have to use step recording or realtime finger drumming on the keys.

There is also use of external devices that can be run from sequencer songs. Midi drum machines with all the intros, fills and endings preset for selection. You can do the drum parts there and then dump the midi data into kronos track and use that track to drive the drum machine.
There can be issues using an external drum machine to drive Kronos drum programs. The sample array usually varies between Kronos drum programs and external drum machines. A snare note position on kronos may not be a snare note position on the drum machine and the midi data does not tell the difference and ends up playing wrong notes. Kronos lets you change the samples around in a drum kit program but it is a lot of work mapping it out to match the drum machine so that the midi data tranfers without being translated to a different drum kit setup.

There are ways with Kronos, just not the common preset selection of intros and fills. I wish there were for myself and i have often wondered if any of the drum sound packs selling out there ,include drum patterns with correlating sets of intros, fills and ending. Definitely try out making hybrid patterns. I was amazed at results i got in RPPR while layering drum patterns from very different musical genres.

[19naia]

A youtube video to get you started.

https://youtu.be/q7niy6vV6X0

[dkalna]

Hi there

Thank you for great response. Video is helpful as well, but man, somebody should buy this guy a tripod for his camera...

Any way, with RPPR went everything fine.

I own EZ Drummer Drum Packs, which are midi files. Is it possible to import it into Kronos and make user patterns out of them?
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Best regards
Dalibor

[19naia]