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fjs714 Senior Member
Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 398
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:51 pm Post subject: Playing Out ---Which PA? |
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Hi Fellas,
Look Out retirement homes and small restaurants----here I come. I have a Pa4x and want to buy the best sounding PA with my tax refund. Two singers and myself.
I've narrowed it down to three:
RCF Evox 8 V2
Maui 28 G2
Bose L1 Model 2 with B2
If any of you are using any of these three----would you buy it again?
Thanks Frank |
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D575 Platinum Member
Joined: 05 Aug 2013 Posts: 1183 Location: UK (Dorset)
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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This is not the answer you are looking for here so hope you don't mind me asking... but have you tried yamaha "DSR" line? for vocals and the PA4X they are exceptionally good a friend of mine has the DSR 112 which I have used recently to test after trying many other makes and lines out there and I am now considering the DSR 115 and in both instances I have and will use a Allen & Heath Zed mixer, hope this has not confused your inquiry here😊 _________________ Korg PA5X-76 : Yamaha Montage M8x : Roland Jupiter 80 : Waldorf STVC : Roland Integra 7 : Waldorf Streichfett : Focal Trio6 ST6 : Studio Outboards/RME Audio Interface/A&H Mixer : |
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DonM Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Apr 2002 Posts: 1150 Location: Benton, LA
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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I have used most everything. I currently use two LD Systems Maui 5 units. I have stereo, and there is always a backup in place should one fail. I play about five nights a week, and have for MANY years.
I believe they sound better than the Bose Compacts. They also have more inputs, e.q., and Bluetooth. And they are about half the price of the Bose Compacts, which I previously used for several years.
I find the full-size Bose L1 is serious overkill for small venues. I can play up to 150 people with my setup without straining it at all.
I still have 2 Bose L1 and sub systems, but haven't had occasion to use them in several years. Last time I used them was for an outdoor event with about 1,000 people! I probably will never do such an event again!
Another fairly inexpensive system that is really great for small venues is Lucas Nano 300. You can do stereo with one unit, or use two for added volume if ever necessary. I also have two of them and use them when I need to be set up in two venues the same day, when moving everything isn't an option.
Don _________________ DonM |
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kbrkr Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 801 Location: Savannah, Georgia USA
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:21 pm Post subject: |
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I've been playing out with (2) Maui 28's for two years and they are easy to move, versatile, sound great, and affordable. I own the originals without the Bluetooth, but I added a BT receiver to my mixer and can now use Pandora for break music.
I did a 500 person NYE gig in an auditorium with the Maui's and they handled it amazingly well. Even with 4 singers, I do not need monitors. I does small venues equally as well. I have never gone past 3/4 volume with these things and they have NEVER over heated.
They put out just enough bottom end and have tons of MID and Highs.
I love em. Highly Recommended _________________ Pa5x, Yamaha Genos, ForeScore |
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Stilli Full Member
Joined: 16 Sep 2016 Posts: 215 Location: London UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 4:30 pm Post subject: Re: Playing Out ---Which PA? |
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fjs714 wrote: | Hi Fellas,
Look Out retirement homes and small restaurants----here I come. I have a Pa4x and want to buy the best sounding PA with my tax refund. Two singers and myself.
I've narrowed it down to three:
RCF Evox 8 V2
Maui 28 G2
Bose L1 Model 2 with B2
If any of you are using any of these three----would you buy it again?
Thanks Frank |
I have the Bose L1m2 with B2, in fact I have two of them but generally only use one for most of my work. They are powerful enough to cope with larger gigs if necessary and I have found nothing that I prefer to date.
What you do have to bear in mind with small venues where there is restricted space this format of speaker (line array with power stand and sub) can be a little difficult to place ideally and they won't sound good stuck in a corner, I have always managed to overcome this problem but it would be worse if you wish to go stereo and have to use two of them. _________________ Korg PA4X, Kawai MPIISE, Ketron SD4, Roland Integra 7, Motu Midi Express XT, Motu Audio Express, Cubase 9.5 Pro, NI Komplete 12 Ultimate (Collectors), Omnisphere, TC-Helicon Voicelive 3, Bose L1m2 (x2) + B2 (x2) |
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Chuck Senior Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 486 Location: Ohio, USA
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:09 pm Post subject: |
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I also use Bose L1 Model II with B2 subs. I connect them to the Bose T1 mixer using the dual mono set up. No monitors required. Always get kudos from my audiences and probably won't change. _________________ PA4X & PA900
Bose L1 Model II w/ToneMatch
Neumann KBS 105 Mic
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pa4x_user Senior Member
Joined: 21 Sep 2016 Posts: 419 Location: Maroochydore Qld
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 8:46 pm Post subject: |
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Another Bose L1 M2 user here. I am using the B1's (I have 2 B1's, but rarely use the second except for large venues). Like Chuck , I use the T1 mixer, and the sound is bright and incredible.
Something to think about - the Pa4X has ability to send balanced audio output (TRS jack) and the Bose L1 base unit and/or the T1 mixer can accept balanced signal. Now that I finally understand the difference - after all these years - between balanced and unbalanced, I would not buy amplifier gear that did not accept a balanced signal.
Some users who switch from B1's to B2's have said that while the B2's have a little more punch, it is not enough to compensate for the ease of handling of the B1's.
There is a great Bose forum at https://www.bosepro.community/g/portable if you want more info. _________________ Korg Pa4X (OS NEXT 3.1.0)
Bose L1M2 speaker system
Yamaha BT midi interface
Songbook+ app for iPad
Cubase12 Pro DAW software
Dorico Elements 4.2 scoring software
Band-in-a-Box 2022
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Chuck Senior Member
Joined: 28 Sep 2004 Posts: 486 Location: Ohio, USA
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Posted: Wed Apr 19, 2017 9:42 pm Post subject: |
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Absolutely right about the B2 vs B1's. If I had it to do over again, I would have stayed with the 4 B1's instead of the 2 B2's. Ease of handling far out weighs the extra boost. _________________ PA4X & PA900
Bose L1 Model II w/ToneMatch
Neumann KBS 105 Mic
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fjs714 Senior Member
Joined: 09 May 2007 Posts: 398
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 3:40 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Guys you're really terrific |
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Joined: 18 Mar 2002 Posts: 248 Location: Canada
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 4:00 pm Post subject: |
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DonM wrote: | I have used most everything. I currently use two LD Systems Maui 5 units. I have stereo, and there is always a backup in place should one fail. I play about five nights a week, and have for MANY years.
I believe they sound better than the Bose Compacts. They also have more inputs, e.q., and Bluetooth. And they are about half the price of the Bose Compacts, which I previously used for several years.
I find the full-size Bose L1 is serious overkill for small venues. I can play up to 150 people with my setup without straining it at all.
I still have 2 Bose L1 and sub systems, but haven't had occasion to use them in several years. Last time I used them was for an outdoor event with about 1,000 people! I probably will never do such an event again!
Another fairly inexpensive system that is really great for small venues is Lucas Nano 300. You can do stereo with one unit, or use two for added volume if ever necessary. I also have two of them and use them when I need to be set up in two venues the same day, when moving everything isn't an option.
Don |
+1000 Great advice ! _________________ http://createsongstyles.com
https://www.yamahastylesonly.com
https://www.midisafe.com |
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guitpic Junior Member
Joined: 02 Mar 2016 Posts: 68
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Posted: Thu Apr 20, 2017 6:21 pm Post subject: |
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We had and used Bose in the past. Switched to a JBL Eon One...very impressed with our unit.
A lot depends on crowd/room size and inputs needed. Retirement homes, parties, and occasionally eating establishments are our main gigs. _________________ PA 4X
S970
DGX 650
JBL Eon One
Space Station V.3
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stephenm52 Senior Member
Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 260
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:44 am Post subject: |
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DonM wrote: | I have used most everything. I currently use two LD Systems Maui 5 units.
I believe they sound better than the Bose Compacts. They also have more inputs, e.q., and Bluetooth. And they are about half the price of the Bose Compacts, which I previously used for several years.
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I still have a Bose Compact but about a year ago added the Maui 5 unit. It's great having the extra inputs and Bluetooth is a bonus. Recently we did an A/B test with another Korg forum member. Both of us chose the Maui 5 over the Bose compact for quality of sound. _________________ Pa4x-76, Yamaha CVP307, Genos, Yamaha sx900, Bose Compact, Maui LD5 |
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Eduardo_Arg Senior Member
Joined: 29 May 2013 Posts: 269 Location: Argentina
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 2:05 pm Post subject: |
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Hi Friends
Some month ago, i sell my Bose l2, because i see another option, a bit less portable but without any doubt better about sounding for different gigs, and less expensive than Bose and LD.-
I bought a pair of FBT Xlite 12 and one unit JBL 1860 (subwoofer 1, it sounds impressive, cristal clear a with enough power.-
Chekc it and listen before buying.-
With regards.
Eduardo _________________ Korg Kronos 2 88 - Korg PA4x 76 - Roland Fantom 08 - Korg N1R Sound Module - Korg 05RW Sound Module - Roland UM550 Edirol Midi Patchbay Amp pair SWR California Blonde II |
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newkorgguy Full Member
Joined: 29 May 2009 Posts: 142
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 3:36 pm Post subject: |
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Im still kickin with PRX712 tops and PRX718XLF subs.
Presonus 1602 for mixer |
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Chichinox
Joined: 19 Aug 2006 Posts: 39 Location: Torino - Italy
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Posted: Fri Apr 21, 2017 10:08 pm Post subject: |
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I use one Bose L1 and never played more than half volume. In small-medium rooms stereo is not so important, otherwisa you would need 2 of them. Theay are extremely handy, light and good sounding. |
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