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How to create keyboard set for all styles
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orasikh
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 8:47 am    Post subject: How to create keyboard set for all styles Reply with quote

I recently bought PA4x and its not clear to me in the manual how to create sound set (performance in previous models) which includes 4 sounds and other parameters settings.
I tried to implement what mentioned in the manual with no luck. I tried to use the sound sets of the library that I created with different styles but each time it picks only the sound set that linked to that particular style knowing that auto style to KBD SET is unchecked in Global.

Appreciate your help ASAP
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

any help guys
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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 2:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

OK let's start with this simply to create a keyboard set:-
Go into STYLE PLAY mode
Now select all the SOUNDs you want in the keyboard set (UPPER1,2,3 LOWER etc
Adjust all their volumes to suit and also mute/unmute etc....
Select required octave settings etc..etc..
From the top-right drop-down menu select "Write Kbd Set to library"
Select a kid-set bank and location in which to write it
Rename it as you wish
press OK

The currently selected style will not be affected.
Now you can re-call this keyboard-set any time you want

Please understand that keyboard-sets are NOT the same as PERFORMANCEs in previous models

Hope this helps

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PostPosted: Sun May 21, 2017 7:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks so much Pete
The keyboard set isn't consists of 4 sounds 1-4? or just one set of Upper 1-3 and other parameters? if yes, then how can I create a set like Performane in pervious models?

Thanks again for your assistance
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi,

you´ve to do 4 times what pete said.

( Somewhere there ist "write to set", then choose either 1,2,3 or 4. )

After EACH STS you have to write !!! You can´t change all 4 sets at one time
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PostPosted: Mon May 22, 2017 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Think of a keybord set like this: a performance without any style settings. So yes, upper 1 to 3 and lower. No style attached, and - because of that - also no style performance. Instead, use the Songbook feature to create/manage your 'performances', which has a lot of advantages once you understand how it works. Think of the keyboard sets as live sound settings you want to use a lot (your favorite piano setting, the trumpet or organ you use a lot etcetera). A style is no longer attached to it. You can use (save) your keyboard sets as sts's in your Songbook entries... But of course you can change them if you think that's required for a certain song in your songbook. Very flexible and handy.
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2017 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Snoopy & Fransman for the valuable info. i will then work on studying Songbook
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2017 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dear Fransman, I went to songbook,created set but when I select style and back to select the set in songbook the style changes, I unchecked auto style in global but still the same. Would you please advise how can I use the songbook as keyboard set without changing the style.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2017 10:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any help please ...
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Songbook, style and keyboard sets come together. Don't know if it's possible to save a Keyboard Set in Songbook without changing the style (any one with PA4 can advise on this, as I don't have one).

My guess:
If you want to select a keyboard set without changing a style, just save it as a keyboard set. (not in Songbook).
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PostPosted: Mon May 29, 2017 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Fransman.

Any help from PA4x owners is really appreciated
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

PA4x owners, would you please advise asap

Thanks
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2017 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

orasikh wrote:
Would you please advise how can I use the songbook as keyboard set without changing the style.

Fransman wrote:
My guess:
If you want to select a keyboard set without changing a style, just save it as a keyboard set. (not in Songbook).

This is what I would suggest too....
@orasikh :- Not quite sure I understand - just leave the style selected and then select the keyboard-set(s) you want.

Sorry if I have misunderstood

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Pete
What I mean is to create a keyboard set that includes sounds saved in registration memory 1-4 and not to be linked to any style the same way we used to do in "Performance" in previous models.
I hope it's clear now
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 01, 2017 1:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What I mean is to create a keyboard set that includes sounds saved in registration memory 1-4 and not to be linked to any style the same way we used to do in "Performance" in previous models.
I hope it's clear now

Cool - so a "keyboard-set" will do exactly that.

Are you ok with this now or do you need more help?

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