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Korg Kronos OR Yamaha Montage 8?
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Bachus
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 5:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GregC wrote:
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Mike Conway wrote:
Without more info from you, this is really subjective to how each feels and sounds to you. Obviously, Kronos has a lot of cheerleaders on a Kronos forum. Montage is also a nice board. Have you gone to a music store and tried both?


Thanks for the reply!

Unfortunately there isn't a music store within 250 miles that carries either one.

I know it is "overkill" but I am looking for an 88 key "synthesizer" that has the best grand piano sounds first and foremost - and then the other instrument sounds come secondary.

I don't plan on recording or sequencing - just playing.

I don't really want a stage piano - because I really do like a lot of the synthesizer sounds/instruments. And I love 80's music! lol

Again, I know the synthesizers I am looking at are overkill - but I don't want some piece of plastic; and I want something that looks like a real piece of equipment and not a toy as so many keyboard today do.

Hope this helps!

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where Kronos shines is being an all around workhorse, it can function as a performance synth, a stage piano, an organ, a recording studio..

Where Yamaha shines, is it interface and studio integration, the visuall feedback of knobs, sliders and buttons is just brilliant, the touchscreen interface in combination with the 4 rows of 8 buttons is very well tought out and modern..

But soundwise, kronos can do so much more, better piano's as said by a few here, with resonance... real VA synths, an organ, a piano engine.. huge expandabillity.. very flexibel effects section.. Karma, which can be used in so many ways, its much much more then the Arpeggiator of the Montage... also there is a huge amount of advanced workstation functionallity in the Kronos, not available in the montage...

However, the Kronos requires quite a lot of indepth experience to pull all that out of teh engine.. no problem if you are a techhead.. but to some all the menu's and submenu's are just to much a funspoiler..

If you just want a good piano, dp, organ, strings, synth... then the upcomming Nord Stage 3 will be a nice alternative.. very straightforward layout and it gives you both that piano, as well as that organ and espescially synth feel, with lots of direct interaction towards the Nords VA synth...


For some reason, price of the various boards and perceived value/price, is not discussed.

I still think thats #1 or #2 purchase criteria. Such as is the Montage 'worth ' $4000 to me. Or is the Nord 3 'worth' $4500 to me.

I am guessing at the Nord 3 price. Feel free to clarify it.


Nord gave a hint of the Stage 3 price at musikmesse

A little over the price of the 2ex versions.. making the 88 about €200 more expensive then the 2ex...

Overhere in Holland that makes all 3 of equally exspensive in new form, costing €4000 each

But then... when you choose Kronos in Holland, you could be lucky like me, found an orriginal Kronos 88 for €1400.. in a very good condition.... sometimes living in a densely populated area has its advantages...

At a price like that, buying a new Montage or Nord stage 3 is nor even an option...
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

[quote="Bachus"]
GregC wrote:
Bachus wrote:
G wrote:
Mike Conway wrote:
Wi

Hope this helps!

Smile
where Kronos shines is being an all around workhorse, it can function as a performance synth, a stage piano, an organ, a recording studio..

Where Yamaha shines, is it interface and studio integration, the visuall feedback of knobs, sliders and buttons is just brilliant, the touchscreen interface in combination with the 4 rows of 8 buttons is very well tought out and modern..

But soundwise, kronos can do so much more, better piano's as said by a few here, with resonance... real VA synths, an organ, a piano engine.. huge expandabillity.. very flexibel effects section.. Karma, which can be used in so many ways, its much much more then the Arpeggiator of the Montage... also there is a huge amount of advanced workstation functionallity in the Kronos, not available in the montage...

However, the Kronos requires quite a lot of indepth experience to pull all that out of teh engine.. no problem if you are a techhead.. but to some all the menu's and submenu's are just to much a funspoiler..

If you just want a good piano, dp, organ, strings, synth... then the upcomming Nord Stage 3 will be a nice alternative.. very straightforward layout and it gives you both that piano, as well as that organ and espescially synth feel, with lots of direct interaction towards the Nords VA synth...


For some reason, price of the various boards and perceived value/price, is not discussed.

I still think thats #1 or #2 purchase criteria. Such as is the Montage 'worth ' $4000 to me. Or is the Nord 3 'worth' $4500 to me.

I am guessing at the Nord 3 price. Feel free to clarify it.


Nord gave a hint of the Stage 3 price at musikmesse

A little over the price of the 2ex versions.. making the 88 about €200 more expensive then the 2ex...

Overhere in Holland that makes all 3 of equally exspensive in new form, costing €4000 each

But then... when you choose Kronos in Holland, you could be lucky like me, found an orriginal Kronos 88 for €1400.. in a very good condition.... sometimes living in a densely populated area has its advantages...

At a price like that, buying a new Montage or Nord stage 3 is nor even an option...


Interesting to compare these boards from our countries perspective.

BTW, 1400 Euros for the original Kronos 88 is a stunning buy. Good for you.

There are few used Kronos for sale in our state. Nothing in the SF Bay area, a few in LA. I think they sell somewhat quickly, when priced fairly.

California is also densely populated, along the coast and in the usual urban areas(where jobs are). 39.5 million people.

Montage 88 is $3900 , maybe $3800. I noted before K2 88 (new) seems to command at least $3300.

$500 diff is,, well, still a bunch of money to consider, I would guess.
My guess is the high Montage 88 price is making the K2 even more attractive.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I know it is "overkill" but I am looking for an 88 key "synthesizer" that has the best grand piano sounds first and foremost - and then the other instrument sounds come secondary.


The new Kronos LS88 is a light touch 88 key (aka semi-weighted) that might be something to look at. Aka, 88 synth keys Smile . Identical to a regular Kronos (minus the 88 "weighted" keys). Weighs less too!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Korg Kronos OR Yamaha Montage 8? Reply with quote

G wrote:
Anyone in, or was in, the same boat?

Trying to decide between the Kronos and the Montage 8.

I will be using it mainly for the grand piano sounds 70% of the time - the other sounds 30% of the time.


I would go for a Nord Stage 3 88 keys, if piano sounds are important.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree if I was planning on using piano most of the time a Nord Stage 3 would be my choice if money was not a factor. If I was using synths, layers, splits a Kronos would be my choice. But the thing with the KRONOS is you have a powerful machine that covers about everything.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Korg Kronos OR Yamaha Montage 8? Reply with quote

swarupmahapatra wrote:
G wrote:
Anyone in, or was in, the same boat?

Trying to decide between the Kronos and the Montage 8.

I will be using it mainly for the grand piano sounds 70% of the time - the other sounds 30% of the time.


I would go for a Nord Stage 3 88 keys, if piano sounds are important.


If I only wanted a piano - it would be between a Nord Stage 3 (although I really don't like the looks) and a Kawai MP11/7 or Yamaha CP4/1.

But I really want a synthesizer...


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