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voip · Platinum Member Joined: 27 Nov 2014 Posts: 3773

A good specification home stereo will sound good with the Kronos, and it should have plenty of overhead to handle any large transients coming from the keyboard.

A budget home stereo system would be less likely to sound good.

One of the best sounding discotheques I ever heard used a pair of Wharfedale Dentons and a Quad 303 amplifier.

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Schmooster · Full Member Joined: 13 Jan 2007 Posts: 239

Yeah I have to agree on that - it's not a 'cheap' home theatre system so unless he's trying to fill a ballroom I don't see how he can go wrong - and although the amps may be 'designed' to accept compressed signals they also handle uncompressed audio - especially through Aux inputs which a lot of people use for turntables and vinyl - nothing comes close to vinyl for fidelity - this is exactly how about 80% of 'home musicians' amp up anyway unless they've had any professional experience - to say it's no good is like saying an outdoor Arena PA won't work indoors. 50% of venues sound shite - I've been patched through the DJ's desk in a couple of places! I ripped one out and 'borrowed' the previous guitarists set-up (and blew his 200W amp with a W30) the fidelity is designed to suit the average 'home' - not Club. Then there's the massively subjective aspect of what's actually audible, perceivable audible and what really sounds good.
It is however true to say that 4Hz-80KHz gives the best audio "mix" but the 'audible' frequency range is a quarter of that - it's like painting, but with
sound.
30Hz is plenty low enough - although I'm an electronics engineer not a sound engineer and those guys take my perfectly balanced mix and rape it because they understand harmonics better - it amazes me the EQ settings that only 'work' when the final few frequencies have been fine tuned - it's an art.

Geez I'm an angry bastard lately.

Ask NormC about Vion and he'll maybe explain why I'm tapped. Wink

geoelectro · Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 11:58 am Post subject:

I'm certain my Klipschorn LaScala's on my "stereo" would sound great with the Kronos. So do my Mackie monitrors HR-824. Very Happy

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amit · Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 12:58 pm Post subject:

You can speculate and contemplate but eventually it also boils down to the room acoustics. Bass management is one of the critical components. No matter the system.
Like I said before, the AVR systems usually are poor candidates for real time performance, due to their internal DSP and any latencies introduced.
In some AVR the straight mode has low latency an can be used but is not guaranteed.
You would be better off using a dedicated power amplifier with those speakers Or use a dedicated power amplifier with a speaker switcher Between AVR and Power Amp.
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Joe Gerardi · Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 2:10 pm Post subject:

SanderXpander · Platinum Member Joined: 29 Jul 2011 Posts: 7860

The soundguys I've dealt with all insist on having an amp that has slightly more power than the speaker (if it's not an active or tuned set). Not because you'd actually run them at full power but because the amplifier distortion you get near max power of a too weak amplifier is what sounds awful and actually kills the speaker.

bmtg · Joined: 22 May 2017 Posts: 37

It depends on more than the wattage ratings. Impedance, sensitivity and more come into play with matching speakers and amps. For guitar amps, you typically use amp wattage less than speaker wattage, because you will very often be transmitting heavy distortion to the speaker and that type of sound taxes it, so underpowering is good. For cleaner PA/studio type of monitoring, overpowering the amp is generally better, with the caution that you have to be careful about running the amp beyond what the speaker can take.
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Joe Gerardi · Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2017 12:39 pm Post subject:

SanderXpander · Platinum Member Joined: 29 Jul 2011 Posts: 7860

I don't get how you get to 3200Watts per side nor how an 800 watt amp powering them doesn't sound horrible, but sure.

Schmooster · Full Member Joined: 13 Jan 2007 Posts: 239

When it comes to power home stereos are invariable stating peak output as a selling point - PA systems are RMS which is .707 of the peak to peak output - 70% roughly sustainable and few know the difference - so few it almost makes it a moot point.

So stfu then.

I'm going to. f*ck off.

You f*ck off.

We'll both f*ck off - in a minute.

When all's said and done an amp is an amp - you don't clean up the amped signal you amp up the clean signal. So get a mixer or EQ, some decent speakers to suit the size of the room and any quality Denon, Bose, Yamaha or whatever amp and sort the Kronos out when you power up. It's just for piano isn't it??

Nobody is gonna put a PA system in their home - it's not even a fair comparison anyway, they work at a whole different level and there's a lot of voltage involved - totally unnecessary at home, and pointless if you've no experience of a PA - but you do what you want. Really the setup should be designed around the room not visa Versa.
Go to Dawson's music rooms or something and get some advice - all you're getting here is opinion based on a distinct lack of information - not enough for anyone to make an educated assessment to guarantee the quality you're after - it all depends on your acoustic environment. The same system won't sound the same in a dozen different locations anyway.

Set your speakers in a concrete floor, fill them with rock-wool, put them on pins - there's a million things you can do but for what you're after you can't go 'that far wrong' that it matters enough to get specific detailed equipment specs. It's nonsense. You'd be better off going and getting a baby grand for the amount of cash you're looking at spending to achieve 'perfect fidelity' - I don't even know why you have a Kronos at this point.

Joe Gerardi · Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2017 1:06 pm Post subject:

SanderXpander · Platinum Member Joined: 29 Jul 2011 Posts: 7860

By the way, Schmooster is right, it would really be best to try something out. We're all half guessing.

FWIW, I assumed a limited budget and was indicating one of those compact PAs like a HK Lukas nano. Or maybe even a Bose L1-like system. Not 2x15 inch speakers with a sub in the living room. But it would really be best to try it out. Maybe a local shop would let you bring your Kronos and play over a few sets?