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ronieaz
Joined: 28 Nov 2016 Posts: 19 Location: Albany, Oregon
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Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 12:15 pm Post subject: PA600 tutorial |
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Hello. New to this and all forums. I do a lot of photography and can find scads of tutorials/workshops on YouTube/Amazon to teach me about any camera/equipment or photography itself. Only thing I'm seeing on YouTube regarding my PA600 is, wow it makes a lot of sounds played by people with fast fingers, something I was not blessed with. I write my own songs and would like to record them for posterity.
Currently, I pick out my melody on the Maudio midi hooked to the macbookpro, then record into Sibelius to get the sheet music. I repeat the process until it sounds close to right. Then I use the written music, goto the Korg to figure out my chords using one finger. Find a style, tempo, alter instruments. Usually I go to QuickRecord for the accompaniment first then play it while recording the right hand. Dump it into Reason finally and may add a vocal.
I am looking for good tutorials on how to actually USE the functions and features of an arranger keyboard. The Korg video manual is basic and got me started. _________________ PA1000; PSR S775; Sibelius; LogicPro; WavePad; 2Macs; BehringerUMC204; Behringer K450FX amp; Arturia Microlab25; Nextar GXP88. |
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Sam CA Platinum Member
Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 3990 Location: Los Angeles
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tacman7 Full Member
Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 248 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:01 pm Post subject: |
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The traditional use for an arranger keyboard was the live performer because it can provide all the backing needed.
Adding an arranger to a modern DAW setup opens up a myriad of possibilities.
Not really the mainstream use so not a lot of vids about it.
I send midi clock to the PA and sync it up so it can play along with the computer sequencer. Most important thing there is get to know the midi inputs and outputs in the global section. I've been able to do most everything I wanted to do by reading the manual and trying to understand how the machine functions and how it functions in relation to the computer sequencer.
Lot of things I deemed too much hassle after I figured out how to do them though.
Only thing I do now is write a song in Studio One then go to the PA and get it to compose me a bass part. (I send it whole note chords to guide the style) then I record the audio output into S1.
It also a good keyboard (input device) for playing VSTi's etc. _________________ PA600 Studio One3 |
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ronieaz
Joined: 28 Nov 2016 Posts: 19 Location: Albany, Oregon
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Posted: Sat Jul 01, 2017 10:18 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Tacman7 and SamCA for the comebacks.
In the case of SamCA - I guess I should be careful what I ask for. You sent me a lot of reading/watching.
Tacman, you said arrangers are mostly for performers - I didn't know that. I'm always seeing Rudess use a Kronos workstation that gets hooked to external sound systems. Maybe I should be looking for a workstation instead. _________________ PA1000; PSR S775; Sibelius; LogicPro; WavePad; 2Macs; BehringerUMC204; Behringer K450FX amp; Arturia Microlab25; Nextar GXP88. |
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nitecrawler Platinum Member
Joined: 22 Mar 2007 Posts: 975 Location: from a mile high to the the AZ desert
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:19 am Post subject: |
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ronieaz wrote: | Thanks Tacman7 and SamCA for the comebacks.
In the case of SamCA - I guess I should be careful what I ask for. You sent me a lot of reading/watching.
Tacman, you said arrangers are mostly for performers - I didn't know that. I'm always seeing Rudess use a Kronos workstation that gets hooked to external sound systems. Maybe I should be looking for a workstation instead. |
If you go the workstation route, you will need to become a more accomplished player than using just one finger to figure out chords. unless, your music is more dance or DJ oriented. IMO
Traditional chord and melody based music can be more easily created using an arranger than a workstation if you are just learning. Music playing like photography takes practice and time with your equipment or instrument to become proficient. Since you already have the PA600, I would go with that for the time being and see how that pans out. Both arrangers and workstations can and are used by performers. Arrangers are used by "solo" performers more than in a band format with other musicians. It would be more difficult to use a workstation as a solo performer, but not impossible. Hope this helps. _________________ http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=807494
Montage M7, Pa5x76, Nautilus, PA3Xle, Oasys 76, Mini-Moog, EMU Audity 2000, Motion Sound KBR 3D amp, Presonus and Reaper DAW W/Tannoy Reveal 501A powered monitors |
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Sam CA Platinum Member
Joined: 02 May 2008 Posts: 3990 Location: Los Angeles
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 1:25 am Post subject: |
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nitecrawler wrote: | ...
If you go the workstation route, you will need to become a more accomplished player.. |
That's the keyword right there! _________________ Sam
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tacman7 Full Member
Joined: 02 Apr 2009 Posts: 248 Location: SoCal
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Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 2:17 am Post subject: |
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I used to use the mo6 and then the mox6 because they have midi loops (phrases) built in but I get a lot more out of an arranger.
I'm a guitar player and a beginning keyboardist. I can play Snoopy song from Charlie Brown, just not very well and that ends my repertoire. _________________ PA600 Studio One3 |
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