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Minneapolis Musician Full Member
Joined: 01 Jul 2015 Posts: 193 Location: Minneapolis
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 4:22 am Post subject: How to Export Songs from Band In A Box to Pa4X Backing Seqs |
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I have used Band In A Box (BIAB) for many years as a songwriting workspace. Maybe some of you have as well.
I have many, many original songs stored in that program.
I was pleased today to see how easy it is to "play" those songs into the Backing Sequence recorder.
Here is how to do it:
I set the Pa4X Global/MIDI to External MIDI USB. I run the Korg USB driver on the PC and select it as both the MIDI in and MIDI out in BIAB.
Channel 3 is typically the piano track in BIAB. I usually set that (ch 3) as the chord recognition channel on the Pa4X, and as a GLOBAL channel on the Pa4X Midi In. BIAB also has the ability to output each chord in the chart in real time on a channel you choose in case there is no suitable pad/piano track. I have done that into the Backing Track recorder as well with success.
By the way, RealTracks won't work unless they have a RealChart stored with them. Just select a pure Midi style for the export, or use the OUTPUTCH in Preferences to output the chord for each measure into the Pa4x chord recognition channel you set up.
I choose the style I want on the Pa4X, (CHURCH.STY, because it holds a simple chord for four beats) go to Sequencer Backing Track (Quick Record) , press the Variation that I want to start in, and then hit the Start/Stop button. The Pa4X waits until I start BIAB.
When I press PLAY on BIAB, it counts off four beats which I see registering on the Pa4X recorder as well, and then the first chord flows into the Pa4X and the backing accompaniment starts with that chord.
I can press the variations and fills in real time, as well as the pads. All is recorded effortlessly. It's beautiful.
I stop BIAB and then hit Stop on the Pa4X.
I can then add parts or adjust volumes in the multisequencer.
It's nice to be able to so easily get my songs translated into backing arrangements using the the Pa4X styles.
I am glad to share it with you all here. _________________ Synth song of mine: https://www.reverbnation.com/glenngalen/song/21469847-searching-and-believing-synth-beat
PA4x harmonies, Beach Boys song: https://youtu.be/3drsnU6j8Po?t=3m25s
All songs: http://www.reverbnation.com/GlennGalen
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Stilli Full Member
Joined: 16 Sep 2016 Posts: 215 Location: London UK
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:19 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for posting, that was very useful.
Martin _________________ Korg PA4X, Kawai MPIISE, Ketron SD4, Roland Integra 7, Motu Midi Express XT, Motu Audio Express, Cubase 9.5 Pro, NI Komplete 12 Ultimate (Collectors), Omnisphere, TC-Helicon Voicelive 3, Bose L1m2 (x2) + B2 (x2) |
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mstodola Senior Member
Joined: 21 Apr 2016 Posts: 347 Location: Bedford, Indiana
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 12:33 pm Post subject: |
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You can also create a mp3 from BIAB. It is a great program. _________________ Pa4x, Oasys 76, K2000, PC3K7, Montage 8, Pa5x |
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Minneapolis Musician Full Member
Joined: 01 Jul 2015 Posts: 193 Location: Minneapolis
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kbrkr Platinum Member
Joined: 06 Oct 2003 Posts: 805 Location: Savannah, Georgia USA
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Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 2:41 pm Post subject: |
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That is awesome! Thank you for sharing this.
I used to use BIAB as a scratchpad for music ideas many moons ago. Perhaps I should give it another look as a tool to transcribe songs. _________________ Pa5x, Yamaha Genos, ForeScore |
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Minneapolis Musician Full Member
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Minneapolis Musician Full Member
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rikkisbears Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Posts: 1691 Location: NSW , Australia
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:26 am Post subject: |
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double post _________________ best wishes
Rikki
HOBBYIST
PA5X 88 note
Wavesart CFX 9ft Grand Piano 🥰
Wavesart Japanese Grand Piano
Yamaha PSR SX900
Band in a Box 2023
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rikkisbears Platinum Member
Joined: 15 Oct 2007 Posts: 1691 Location: NSW , Australia
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 5:27 am Post subject: |
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Hi ,
Never actually tried it with the backing sequencer, but I used to have my pa800 midied to biab.
I basically created the song in biab..
The chords were played by biab and controlled the chords on the keyboard.
I actually managed to get a mix of biab real tracks and korg style tracks playing together ie some of the real track guitars sounded so much better than the guitar parts in the pa800.
It was a lot of fun experimenting . _________________ best wishes
Rikki
HOBBYIST
PA5X 88 note
Wavesart CFX 9ft Grand Piano 🥰
Wavesart Japanese Grand Piano
Yamaha PSR SX900
Band in a Box 2023 |
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tombikadam Full Member
Joined: 18 Jun 2014 Posts: 246
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 8:52 pm Post subject: |
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can you make a video or tutorial for us? |
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