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[Bachus]

[GregC]

[Koekepan]

GregC, I kind of agree with you.

From the perspective of "I just need a virtual band to support this song while I bang it out." you might as well just use a microArranger. One tenth the price, or less, and it will slap out perfectly usable styles with recorded chord changes, no problem. It will also dump out MIDI so you can fool around with it in the DAW of your choice - no problem.

From the perspective of "I shall craft this into a thing of ineluctable beauty with my nonpareil high technology." a Kronos will do it for thousands less, or a laptop with just about any modern DAW.

The Genos seems to come into its own as the one-man-band performing solution, but from everything I can see, the PA4X is still better, and for less money (again).

[worth]

Greg you are missing the whole point. The arranger does not limit you from rolling your own so go speak . It actually frees you to play with musical ideas and chord progressions BEFORE you decide to roll your own .

Furthermore not every piece of work as a musician has to be a work of art or even to your tastes . They only have to be sometimes to the taste of the client/ clientele you are making music for . So if I am required to put together a backing track for a singer and they want a jazz or blues style track , I can rough one out in minutes , send it to them the same day and either get paid sooner or get their feed back about what they like or don’t like about the track and edit it accordingly . No longer am I a slave to spending hours laying down track by track to try and meet a deadline .
Think about radio jingles , sound tracks for promotional videos , corporate events .

At the end of the day an arranger is still just a keyboard but as a tool , it opens up income generating possibilities that are less amenable via the traditional workstation computer route .

Try one and see

[GregC]

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[Mr_SamDoogie]

Was expecting more bravado but it went quiet quickly.
After the weeks long teasers this is it new keyboard here it is go get.

I'm expecting people getting things done when it comes to presentation,
This a slow build up of an expensive "workstation" not getting a more proper show.

Even the website has come up slowly no information nothing. The sounds are o.k but this keyboard doesn't speak for itself of what it can do.

No offense to Yamaha maybe I'm impatient but they baked bread the smell of it
got promising it's out of the oven but were the rest????.
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[GregC]

[D575]

I have Montage & korg PA4X as well as others seen below (Genos may or may not be a contender pending some demo time with it which is all personal preference)... So i feel to say most important of all is the positive effects of playing or creating Music with whatever type of keyboard we may have and that is what matters most of all... So who ever you are or wherever your background with music you maybe from and with out diminishing anybody... then the instruments we use are just the vehicles to get us to that destination and both Concepts discussed here together or on their own are great ways to do that ... Music is the language of the Universe ((((A@424hz)))) and the language of music can cross many barriers and that is what this world needs more than ever to save us from are self.......Great forum, I would be lost with out It with my korg...all the best to you all
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[D575]

http://sandsoftwaresound.net/tag/genos/
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[wma]

https://uk.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/7/1130977/genos_en_om_b0.pdf

[pjd37]

Hi --

I had a chance to think a little more about the Genos specs. There is quite a big jump in the number of Mega Voices, Super Articulation voices, and Super Articulation 2 voices -- a bigger increase than we've seen with previous Tyros-to-Tyros upgrades.

This is enabled by the new tone generation hardware.

I think the end result will be highly detailed, expressive voices that are fun to play. It ain't no accident that Yamaha added a third articulation button in addition to the knobs and sliders.

I can't wait to play this thing!

More at: http://sandsoftwaresound.net/genos-articulation-future/

All the best -- pj
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[Niki_Keyz]

After 13 years of supporting the PA series, I will be leaving Korg for Yamaha. I am very excited about jumping into the Genos. I know there are a few features that I will miss from Korg but I know that time with the genos will help and get better.

I just felt like Korg was lacking quality. From the pa80 down to the 4x, very little has changed as far as sounds, styles and quality over the years. I feel like they just take the last arranger give it a little facelift and call it a new arranger. That’s just my opinion.

But the operating system in Korg pa series is phenomenal. It cannot be touched. The full onboard editing of styles and sounds will be missed. But let’s be honest, lots of people that have had a Korg, switched and are switching over to yamaha.

Good luck to Korg in the near future. You had a great fan base and great supporters through all these years, but now it’s time to make the jump into something higher quality.

[afr]

Soundwise Genos seems interesting I don't want to say better than PA4X but sounds good

But .... When you talk about quality what are you referring to?

Just talking about materials, pa4x is full metal body and genos is plastic....what is better?

[karmathanever]

Hi Niki

Congratulations on your choice to go Genos.
It is always about personal needs tastes and what is important to you.

Not arguing at all or getting into A vs B etc.. but just a friendly suggestion:-

If you use Korg fingered 1, or
If you use tempo lock,
If you like selecting FILLS individually,
If you like full control with DNC (compared to SA)
If you like immediate access to bass inversion
...Genos does not have or support these in the same way.

Genos and Tyros are not conducive to live performance and recording due to poor accessibility within the OS and insufficient control surface

There are many other differences so please choose very carefully. Search back through these forums - there are many who have jumped to Tyros and jumped back.
It's an expensive change.. take care

I wish you all the best

Pete
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