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congan2 Full Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:00 pm Post subject: Korg Pa4X Intro Longer than 32 Bars |
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I know that Korg Pa4X is only allow to make an Intro no longer than 32 Bars,
How can I make a Style with an intro longer than 32 bars in korg Pa4X?
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karmathanever Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:21 pm Post subject: |
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32 is the limit but you might get away with recording the style in "double time" e.g. record at 60bpm but record in double time (120)
You would have to match that with the other style elements of course.
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adimatis Senior Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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While your question is somewhat illogic (no offence, but if you make the statement of something that's possible and then ask how to do what is obviously impossible...) there is probably one workaround.
That is to actually create a double-speed tempo style and so you double the number of bars you can use.
So, for a style at 120 bpm, use the 60 bpm tempo and here you are, double the amount of bars.
Will work? _________________ "Many people take the bad management for destiny!" - Kin Hubbard
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adimatis Senior Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Yes, as Pete said. _________________ "Many people take the bad management for destiny!" - Kin Hubbard |
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congan2 Full Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 3:45 pm Post subject: |
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adimatis wrote: | Yes, as Pete said. |
Thank you for your help! |
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Sam CA Platinum Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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or....just double the time signature. Example: If you need a 60 bar intro with a 4/4 Style, record an intro with 8/4 and that'll give you 64 bars of 4/4. You don't even have to worry about the tempo change.
Just another way of doing things. I've done this with the Pa800 years ago, so it should still be possible. _________________ Sam
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congan2 Full Member
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Posted: Tue Oct 17, 2017 5:37 pm Post subject: |
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Sam CA wrote: | or....just double the time signature. Example: If you need a 60 bar intro with a 4/4 Style, record an intro with 8/4 and that'll give you 64 bars of 4/4. You don't even have to worry about the tempo change.
Just another way of doing things. I've done this with the Pa800 years ago, so it should still be possible. |
Thanks Sam CA, I think your way is the best to accomplish. But the way shown above works as well.
Thank You All, |
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BR Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 3:46 am Post subject: |
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Since we are in the subject of creating intros, I have a question.
I need to create a 4 measures Intro (time signature 4/4) and keep all beats of 4 measures until the first beat of the 4th measure and delete three remaining rests of the 4th measure.
Theoretically Intro will contain three measures (4/4) and one measure (1/4) time signatures.
I created a 4 bars Intro in Pa4X and after importing it in a DAW then deleted the last three remaining rests of the measure 4th, saved as midi format 0 and imported back to Pa4X.
Result unsuccessful, the rests are not deleted and Pa4X keep counting/playing them and the Variation is triggered with delay (because of the remaining rests).
Any help/suggestion appreciated. |
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Sam CA Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 4:32 am Post subject: |
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Hi Br,
You're trying to do this I think:
4/4 | bar 1 | bar 2 | bar 3 | 1/4 | bar 4 |
This is NOT possible, as you can't have multiple time signatures within the same Style Element.
You would either have to perform that last bar manually, or assign that one bar to a different style element (such as Intro 2), and press INTRO 2 at the right time....Not recommended! _________________ Sam
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BR Platinum Member
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Posted: Wed Oct 18, 2017 6:30 pm Post subject: |
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Sam CA wrote: | Hi Br,
You're trying to do this I think:
4/4 | bar 1 | bar 2 | bar 3 | 1/4 | bar 4 |
This is NOT possible, as you can't have multiple time signatures within the same Style Element.
You would either have to perform that last bar manually, or assign that one bar to a different style element (such as Intro 2), and press INTRO 2 at the right time....Not recommended! |
Exactly.
I could workaround this issue by overlapping the last beat of 4th bar in 3th bar, it's not musically correct but that was the only doable option I had.
Thanks a lot. |
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