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Woomgoog
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:57 pm    Post subject: Little help with KARMA Reply with quote

I'm totally new to Karma, yesterday I was watching some videos on youtube from Qui Robinez showing how to use etc...
Is there a way to make your own pattern when you chose chords? I'm trying to reproduce the sound you hear on Du Hast - Rammstein. I know that can be sampled etc... But I actually wanted to try to make on Karma so that I could understand better how the setting up works. I actually did get pretty close yesterday but the pattern that is playing is a little off from the original which is kind of a very simple pattern.
So at the same time I know it's something simple but I have not much knowledge on Karma I was wondering if that could be done there or it would be better to forget it and sample it.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Little help with KARMA Reply with quote

Woomgoog wrote:
I'm totally new to Karma, yesterday I was watching some videos on youtube from Qui Robinez showing how to use etc...
Is there a way to make your own pattern when you chose chords? I'm trying to reproduce the sound you hear on Du Hast - Rammstein. I know that can be sampled etc... But I actually wanted to try to make on Karma so that I could understand better how the setting up works. I actually did get pretty close yesterday but the pattern that is playing is a little off from the original which is kind of a very simple pattern.
So at the same time I know it's something simple but I have not much knowledge on Karma I was wondering if that could be done there or it would be better to forget it and sample it.

Thanks guys


No, you can't roll your own on Karma/Kronos. You would need the software.

You can get variation on some patterns. I am not familiar with Du hast.

If you have your your chords down, you could make a track in SEQ. And build from there.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't remember what the synth on "Du Hast" is doing, but another option to KARMA is to use the step sequencer. If you have a specific rythem pattern or so to play with a single keypress that is often a good choice
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gunnar wrote:
I don't remember what the synth on "Du Hast" is doing, but another option to KARMA is to use the step sequencer. If you have a specific rythem pattern or so to play with a single keypress that is often a good choice


Is that an option within Karma? How do I do to access that? Thank you
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it is a separate feature from KARMA, look it up in the guide Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RPPR on the Kronos could probably allow one to cover quite a few parts of Rammstein's Du Hast single handedly. There are quite a few YouTube videos covering RPPR, mostly on other Korg keyboards, but the basic principle is common.

A taster in RPPR, done on the M50. Not exactly Neue Deutsche Härte rock but...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0_rNBcRCcU
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone tried this Karma rhythm pattern setting to 123 trick as per this video that makes your own wave sequence into a Karma pattern? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgEByCYvdDI
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mooogie wrote:
Anyone tried this Karma rhythm pattern setting to 123 trick as per this video that makes your own wave sequence into a Karma pattern? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgEByCYvdDI


Karma is not the same as a step sequencer. I think its a good idea to know exactly what Karma is, how sophisticated it is.

Sure, we can make our own user ARP's thats correct. And yes, within a Combi,you can take your user ARP ( or wav seq) and assign it to Karma and use Karma to latch your user ARP, setting key zones.

I don't know about the 123 trick.

It is a good demo combining the features of Kronos.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 1:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks guys for all the replies, I wanted to try to do something like a challenge for me to learn more about Karma and the RPPR that now I know exists.
I've never been a sequencer user before so I'm sorry if my request was really noob. But I solved the problem simply going for the easiest solution since I needed the sound working shortly so I could practice with the band.
I did use the sample LOL.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Often the simplest solution is the best. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Woomgoog wrote:
Thanks guys for all the replies, I wanted to try to do something like a challenge for me to learn more about Karma and the RPPR that now I know exists.
I've never been a sequencer user before so I'm sorry if my request was really noob. But I solved the problem simply going for the easiest solution since I needed the sound working shortly so I could practice with the band.
I did use the sample LOL.


RPPR or Step Sequencer is the way to go.

Karma is great For Generating Fresh Ideas/Patterns and many other things. Replicating Existing stuff is not its forte.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 15, 2018 7:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

StephenKay wrote:
Often the simplest solution is the best. Smile


Well not always I'd say, I always try to remind myself, the more samples you have, more loading time, less space on SD, higher risk of something bad happening.
So for the sake of loading times I always try to create my own sounds if I'm going to play a cover for example, I don't really mind if it doesn't sound 100% like the original but I always try to make it the closest possible.
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