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[19naia]

This may be talking about the original kronos.

https://marcan.st/2016/06/hacking-and-upgrading-the-korg-kronos/

Gives details about the internal hardware and the work each part takes on.

[GregC]

[leonh]

[SeedyLee]

[Gargamel314]

I had a Dell Inspiron Duo laptop (netbook, really) a few years ago (2011). THAT one had an Atom processor with hyperthreading (2 cores, 2 threads each). It still ran slower than dirt (1.66 MHz, would lag out terribly in Windows 7 and 10). Also, couldn't the 4th CPU be dedicated to the OS?
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[janrhansen]

The interesting thing is noon really knows what the arm chip is actually doing other than it supposedly handles the display and possible the audio i/o.

I believe that the pages about modding the Kronos is up to date with the Kronos-x. Adding a new board like the one suggested and choosing a 7'th Generation i5-7600k would significantly improve performance even compared to the Kronos 2 as the D2550 is only about 11% faster than the D525 used in the Kronos X. Its running 1.85 vs 1.80Ghz, where as the i5-7600K runs 3.80 Ghz Base clock. Its got more than 12x as much processing power as the Atom.

Its worth noticing tho, that unless you are well known with tweaking linux, and willing to mod the Korg loaders settings, and even you can change the note stealing settings there still is a build in soft limit of each voice engine wich means you won't get anywhere near to 12x the power. A cheaper i3 will propably also hit the limit Korg put into the software.

As I see it, its a much a bigger problem that the Kronos uses a 32bit OS, wich most people know greatly limits how many libraries , even they use disk streaming, that you can have loaded at once.
Just being able to have 8gb of memory instead of 3.25, wich I believe the currently used motherboard of a Kronos 2 actually supports. even the 64bit OS would have a slightly bigger memory usage you would more than tripple the ammount of available sample preload size.

So in my logic I really don't get Korg ..

1. The i3/5/7 is able to run Atom optimized code
2. Even a fairly cheap 6'th generation i3 running 3.8Ghz has a 10x perf. boost running compared to the Atom.
3. Remove the restraints on max polyphonics of the soft synth engines, fast check the code for any issues ..., recompile it for 64bit It would take what .. propably under a couple days.
4. Put it into a modded Kronos with a compatible MB and said i3, and then have someone testing it. i am pretty sure Korg have endorsed musicians that would gladly test it, and they could have a fast updated Kronos 3 ready for the next decade while they could work on optimizing the code for multicore work. And btw the newer Atom cpu's DO have hyperthreading, so they are are able to run 4 threads just like most dual core i3 and i5's.

The whole point is they don't even have to spent a whole lot of time optimizing their system for quad cores or bigger. They could just make the code recompile for 64bit to take advantage of a more modern dual core i-series with high base clock and the system would be nearly 10x as powerfull and be able to use as much ram as the mb can handle plus the extra advantage of possible much faster and more compact .m2 slot SSD's.

That would also make it possible for them to have some cheaper models with a mobile chip, or a soc. based mb. There is so many posibilities today for fairly cheap solutions that would easy outpower the existing Kronos models, simply because the processors are so much more powerfull. The usage of Atom is kicking a dead horse, when you can just use a more powerfull cpu that cost about the same and run the existing Atom optimized code 10x as fast.
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[GregC]

Said this a few hundred times, there is a list of what Korg 'should ' do or could do.

Given this type of topic has been going on for 8 years, my uninformed guess is , Korg might start with a blank palette on a new model vs chasing the annual tech spec game every year.

Or like you suggest, they might be able to address many of the improvement areas and that might be enough power and remain cost effective. Call it a better spec'd Kronos 2.
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[janrhansen]

[GregC]

[kronoSphere]

And when Korg proudly releases its new 64 system workstation, everyone else will be already in 128 ... maybe even 256... maybe even...
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[SKung]

[SKung]

Or Korg could make money and offer an 'Upgrade service', like 'send the Kronos in or bring it to the next dealer and we replace the mainboard for 500 bucks with a stronger one'.

I'd pay for that.

[GregC]

[SKung]

[GregC]