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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 6:34 pm    Post subject: Audio Phrase Question!!! Reply with quote

Does anybody tried to use an audio phrase loop/shot within pads?

It seems that you can use the audio phrase on pads either as a sliced loop/shot where it doesn't get transposed (like a Drums loop)
or you can actually use it as an transposed phrase but out of sync.

Did somebody found out any way it could work ?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Audio Phrase Question!!! Reply with quote

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either as a sliced loop/shot where it doesn't get transposed (like a Drums loop)
or you can actually use it as an transposed phrase but out of sync.

Pad is working exactly as a Style's track , with the same properties , this means that you can use a sample even as
a simple sample for a phrase , nor as time sliced phrases (vocal scatting) , transposed or not and in sync or out of sync
according to your needs , using created Programs !
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Antony ,i can't make it work right.
It works ok when it's scliced, but it doesnt transpose.
i tried many different settings.
Am i doing something wrong while slicing the phrase? Do i have to adjust more % or any other setting ?

On other hand ,when i create a normal multisample ,program etc, and use it on pad,i can archieve the transpose that i need if i play it on other keys,but the sync is to totally off with the style.

What is the right process? i need an audio loop sync with the style,but also transportable according to the key i play
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Read manual about time sliced sample workflow , creating Sound and importing SMF and experiment first on Style
and then try to replicate it in PAD.
I have done all above you have mentioned in all variations since Pa2X age for commercial complete sounds/styles packs.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can do that,i can import it on pad and it plays right on all Bpm 's.What i also need is this audio phrase to be able to transpose according to the key i am playing....
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2018 11:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should know the global principles of time slicing , you can't re-pitch a time sliced sample with spreading on keybed method !
You either select between time-sliced method on certain tune nor use ordinary MS for sample pitch shift for melodic sounds.


Although this restriction I did that before 10 years in Pa2X , in order to simulate audio files players (DJs) , for a Style's track
guitar rhytm of a real played guitar.
This can't be replicated and IMO it doesn't worth the efford !
This ubnormal concept was made briefly with 12 played guitar's rythmic samples for an octave , 12 time sliced patterns had
been created , for each pattern keybed sample positions were re-mapped (shifted proportionally to the semitones of pitch shift )
and one octave orientation was set at track preferences ... go figure !
Just for the record that nothing is imposible ... Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2018 12:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah,you are right, i thought that too,but it doesn't worth it to do it x12 times as you said just to have it on any key....

Plus something that i just realized: What if this phrase must be played while i change 4 chords in between? Huge mess i can tell.
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